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How do I do it

Postby UKPhilTR7 » 01 Nov 2014 05:25

Today I went to put the front suspension back on the car, but it later turned into a bit of a pain. I got the struts on and then the got the track arms. However, the anti roll bar will not go into the track arms, there is around a two inch difference in the arm to the hole.

I took the arms of and tried to fit the bar, but no good. the bar is now not connected to the subframe, but I think I need to do this as if it does go in the bar will not fir.

So now I have a hand compressor and aim to fit the anti roll bar on to the subframe, then compress the two ends of the anti roll bar together to fit into the of track arms.

Can anyone give any advice?

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Postby Hasbeen » 01 Nov 2014 06:03

Phil, anything that will pull the ends in will do.

I use a Spanish windless system when doing mine, simply because I like using old, simple techniques when I can. We also use them, with wire, as a permanent support for fence corner post systems.

If you don't know what that is Google it, their descriptions are better than I could do.

You do have to be careful, as there gets to be a lot of pressure on the leaver, [or screwdriver in my case], & it could be dangerous if let lose.

Any little come-along type tool that will pull the ends together will do. I put a hose clip tight around the thing, so the rope dose not slide down the arms when pulling them.

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Postby Stag76 » 01 Nov 2014 06:07

It does need some manipulation to get it back on. A ratchet tie-down usually provides enough leverage.

I think it is easier to fit it to the lower control arms first, as there is more length to bend, then use the puller to manoeuvre it to attach it to the subframe.

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Postby saabfast » 01 Nov 2014 06:34

The alternative I used was to release the lower control arm from the chassis one side, bolt the ARB in and then reconnect the LCA. Its only one bolt and goes back easily as its only the angle of the ARB that makes it difficult to fit.

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Postby jeffremj » 01 Nov 2014 07:48

It is almost impossible if the front suspension is at full drop. I jack up the suspension and the ends can then be fitted fairly easily.

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Postby FI Spyder » 01 Nov 2014 14:21

First time I did it I had no problems and wondered what everybody was talking about. Second time I did it had same problem and did it Saabfast's way.

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Postby Ianftr8 » 01 Nov 2014 14:33

Phil,

Have you got the ARB bolted on at the front of the subframe (with or without the anti dive spacers)?
I have always found it easier to have the front end hanging down loose and the two ends will go through the holes in the horizontal links (again disconnected from the suspension legs) without too much bother.

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Postby nick » 01 Nov 2014 17:22

Get a cheap ratchet winch. Insert one side of the bar into position. Hook the other end of the bar with the ratchet hook. Attach the ratchet end somewhere on the opposite side on the subframe. Ratchet the lose end into place. It's pretty easy.

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Postby jclay (RIP 2018) » 01 Nov 2014 21:42

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Postby busheytrader » 02 Nov 2014 06:01

Guys,

This worked for me some time back as I didn't have any straps to pull the ends of the anti roll bar together. It involved a lot of scrabbling around on the ground but if you don't have a 2 post lift I find that's true of almost all work on a wedge.

The anti roll bar fits into the track control arms if the weight of the car is on its front suspension. If not the holes in the tca's are about 2 inches too close together as the tca's hang down, as per the previous posts.

Assuming that all the front suspension is in place including the wheels but not the anti roll bar, remove the axle stands and let the car's front wheel's on to the ground. Insert the arb in to the tca's with bushes in the correct places. It will fit straight into the respective holes. Tighten the retaining nut and cup washer at either end of the arb but not fully. The centre of the arb will now be dangling well below the subframe.

Using the scissor jack from the boot or your trolley jack if it's low enough (mine isn't) place it under the centre of the arb and jack up the arb to the subframe until you can slide the mounting bolts into place with the saddle clamps and anti dive spacers if fitted. If they don't slide in straightaway you might have to push the front wheels back to enable some front to back movement of the tca's by a few millimetres. Tighten the mounting bolts but not fully.

Lower the car to the ground and with the full weight of the car on its wheels torque up all the bolts. It worked for me. There's very little room under the front of a wedge, especially a slightly lowered one...........Hope this helps.

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Postby UKPhilTR7 » 02 Nov 2014 08:35

Hi guys, thank you so much for the words of advice it was all a good help and thanks for the pic too. That is what I ended up doing in the end and it looks like we have the same winch.

To tell you the truth, I didn't think of putting the car on the floor to and I read this post a bit too late, but thinking about it, it does make sense.

Got the bar in all OK and then had issues getting the bolts into the tra's/ In the end they went in, but it was a bit of a job. All is back now though. Got the wheels on and now all sounds good. The steering is a little lighter too so the roller bearings wre good to fit :)

Thanks for all the words guys, it sure helped.

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Postby jclay (RIP 2018) » 02 Nov 2014 11:24

Don't forget to re-torque the bolts holding the lower arms to the body with the car on the ground.

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Postby Beans » 02 Nov 2014 12:59

I did a little write up on this subject in my weblog ...
http://tr7beans.blogspot.nl/2013/07/10cr-preparations-part-2.html

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Postby UKPhilTR7 » 05 Nov 2014 08:37

Thank you guys for the help and the words of wisdom. It is all back on now, but there was a bit of a trouble doing it. Think I will not do it again for a bit :)

On the good side the steering is slightly lighter now that I have put the new roller bearings on.

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