Paintwork

[gaz]

Ok guy's..........

As some of you will remember my car had a little work a few years ago, and.......
about 4-5 years ago it was treated to a respray now over the the last 2-3 years i have had a little problem with my paint its getting worse and worse, and I must say at this point it is not because of neglect
it gets polished, waxed and all sorts in the past i have clay bared it super resin polish and use on a regular basis high definition wax and i must say my neighbours car looks better and he uses fairy washing up liquid and his old underpants rinsed down with the dirty water he's just washed it in.

Its two pack paint and no amount of buffing, polishing, flatting down and buffing will do anything for it.

does anyone know why its happened and what can be done to prevent it happening again.........











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[Steve @ SandS]

Gaz, have a look on here http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/

Looks like water spots to me and you really need to get a machine on it.Don't use a std buffer, use DA buffer with probably something like a Menzerna product on the head.

Also have a look here http://www.morethanpolish.com/

Steve @ S&S Preparations

[stevie_a]

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detailing world site that Steve posted is a very good site these guys know there paint

register with the site and ask them, they will love the challenge.</b></font id="teal">


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[gaz]

it dosent seem to cut back at all its almost like its under the paintwork my brother is a car body repair guy (he didn't spray it i have to say) and he has tried a buffer with g3 & g10 i think it was & it didn't touch it....... but like steve says from S&S try a DA buffer I'll give one of there detailing guy's a ring before i start saving up for a re-spray.
he reckons as its getting worse the only thing to do is have another re-spray
but i have my doubts.......

there a bit wierd if you look at them in the first photo they appear to have depth you can see them beyond each other a bit like a snow globe of epoxy resin but blue now i'm getting wierd

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[gaz]

and whilst looking at one of those sites you posted steve look what i found.........

http://www.morethanpolish.com/Budget-Car-Covers.asp

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[john 215]

Hi Gaz,

Weird one mate [:(]

I have posted one of your pictures on a paint forum i visit see if they have idea, will let you know if i get a reply.

Cheers John

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1982 2.0 DHC NOW A 4.6,ON THE ROAD NOW KICKING AR5E !!!!

[john 215]

Hi Gaz,

a couple of replys already -

First -


white ish blothces?

usualy from a car cover where its got damp underneath , sometimes it goes away when parked in the sun or polished , but if its been like it ages then i doubt its going away

could try some heavy duty polishing with the view that if it burns through then it needed painting anyway

Second -

Wet flat affected areas with P1000, then mop with G3 and hope for the best.

will update as they come in,

Cheers John

LIVE LIFE A QUARTER OF A MILE AT A TIME!
1979 3.5 FHC(STATUS PENDING!!)

1982 2.0 DHC NOW A 4.6,ON THE ROAD NOW KICKING AR5E !!!!

[FI Spyder]

Generally epoxy paints get a clear coat that protects the paint from the elements. Did yours get that? It looks like water spots. Shouldn't get that unless you have some serious acid rain in your region. The pulp mill next town over had a car shower where the employees would drive their car through it every day at shifts end to wash off the contaminants. (They've done millions of dollars of upgrades since then.)
I used to park my car by a hospital where they used burn their bio waste in an incinerator and the ash would eat into the paint leaving tiny white spots. I found out the former owner of spider had a tarp on it for the seven years it was stored marbling the paint, shouldn't happen with epoxy paint.

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[Beans]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Steve @ SandS</i>

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Indeed looks like you washed the car in bright sunshine to me.

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[HDRider]

It looks like hard water spots ot me. If you waxed and sealed repeatedly after they appearded they could be under all that protectant now.

My TR8 had similar spots and it took a lot of power buffing to remove them using a course cutting compound. They were on top of the clear coat so I just had to be carefull not to buff too far. I did the edges by hand and powered all the large flat ares.

Once removed I made sure not to wash the car with well water and to always use a chamois right away.

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[Hasbeen]

Some of the pigments used in blues, purples & maroons are not as stable as other more common colour. We had problems with them in the plastics industry.

They do fade more quickly, & respond badly to bright sunlight shining on them through water patches.

My Ford Capri is a very deep blue/purple colour, & it developed some blotches on some flat areas in one day. It was parked in our full summer sun all day, with short heavy showers coming regularly every hour or so.

They are not as bad as yours, but they are geting more noticable with time.

I think someone must have polished such blotches out some time previously, as the paint is thin in spots.

Hasbeen

[john 215]

Hi Gaz,

Latest comments on paint forum center around poss being caused by being a plastic car cover [?]

Another suggestion and quoted -

"Yeah iv seen this with polymask or car covers.

If you have tried buffing with g6 or fast cut and still there, try shortwave I/R lamps for 15mins or a heated garage over night should do the trick if its been caused by moisture "

Cheers John

LIVE LIFE A QUARTER OF A MILE AT A TIME!
1979 3.5 FHC(STATUS PENDING!!)

1982 2.0 DHC NOW A 4.6,ON THE ROAD NOW KICKING AR5E !!!!

[gaz]

cheers for those John it has only been under a cover a few times usually if i have polished and waxed a few days before a show so i don't have to do it again,

as for heated garages..................
no way not again it was too traumatic



I have even thought at some point that the fire could have caused it with the alkaline deposits from the morter and brickwork but months after it looked this good



and as it stays outside this is the level of wax that is kept on it most of the time



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[Beans]

And those water drops act as lenses when the sun shines on them, burning into the paint.
Same happened to the (rear) paint work of 't Kreng

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[gaz]

exactly but it doesn't happen to everybody's car so what makes mine so special......[:(]

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