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Gas Mileage

Postby papker » 09 May 2008 18:29

Hello all,

I just purchased a 1979 Tr7. any idea what i can expect in term sof gas mileage?

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Postby sst » 09 May 2008 19:13

I have an '80 Spider and get about 25 city and roughly 29 highway.. a little less with the AC on, which is critical in Texas.. even with a converible haha..

Son of a .... THATS gonna leave a mark!

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Postby Beans » 09 May 2008 22:50

If you're concerned about mpg buy something else [:p]

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Postby Hasbeen » 10 May 2008 01:41

I get 28 to 35 MPG, but our gallons are bigger than yours.

That would equate to about 26 for city, & 32 for country driving.

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Postby FI Spyder » 10 May 2008 02:08

I got an optimum of 40 mpg (imperial not US) with FI, constant 50 mph, top up, windows open, back window unzipped and down. Under normal conditions bout the same as Hasbeen. Not the same as a Volkswagon TDI but better than my old 1971 Javelin 304 ci. with 24 MPG (imperial) (or 27 MPG drafting a Greyhound bus [:D])

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Postby Workshop Help » 10 May 2008 02:16

Oh dear, I saw this coming a few months ago, gas mileage. This won't be pretty, but here goes. Provided one has tuned the engine to the peak of efficiency with regards to ignition and fuel mixture using a vacuum gauge or separately installed oxygen sensors with an exhaust gas analyzer, the one real key to increasing fuel mileage is in the gearing.

For those remaining cars with a four speed, a conversion to a rebuilt five speed can markedly increase your fuel mileage thru the advantage of the fifth gear being a .83/1 ratio overdrive from the fourth gear being a direct drive. The one fly in the ointment keeping this conversion from being a bolt-on is the four speed driveshaft must be lengthened by a competent driveshaft shop.

The full conversion using the factory 3.90/1 ratio rear end will diminish your fuel mileage from the four speeds 3.63/1 ratio. We are using this conversion in our TR7 retaining the 3.63/1 ratio rear end and are more than satisfied with it. We cannot imagine any legitiment need for the 3.90/1 ratio other than pulling a horse trailer or jerking fence posts out of their holes. As for the 1" increase in the rear brake shoes, we again are satisfied with the four speed rear ends brakes. But, for those wanting to have their cake and eat it too, the 1981 fuel injected TR7's had 3.45/1 ratio rear end with the larger brakes. If one can get this rear end along with the 1981 LT77 gearbox, the bonus is fifth gear will be a .74/1 ratio. Oh! Happy days! Your fuel mileage will go off the charts.

Refueling from an honest gas staion pump, we regularly record a mix bag driving rate of 33 mpg. An honest pump, this is becoming a more than significant problem. Driving in the same manner, at another station owned by 'Apu', we record 28 mpg. At the supermarket gas pumps, we record 29.5 mpg. Now, who's got the honest pump? Does the 33 mpg gas station have a defective regulator in his pumps that meters out too much, or is 'Apu' with his low posted price making up the difference by cheating the consumer with a 'set' regulator to give us a lower mpg recording?

Another issue is the presence of 10% ethanol in the gasoline and other elements such as oxidizers. The BTU capacity of the motor fuel is diminished and this adversely affects the power AND the fuel efficiency of our engines. As such, we are butting our heads against a wall.

Lousy fuel, cheating gas stations, the wrong gearing, out of tune engines, all conspire with the current insane oil and gas commodity markets to disrupt our lives. I may have to put some TR8 decals on the old Raleigh bicycle and avoid the use of gasoline all together.

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Postby calex59 » 10 May 2008 02:42

I have gotten as high as 37 mpg(US gallons)with my 1980 5 speed, but that was straight freeway driving. I normally get about 33 mpg, mixed highway and city driving.

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Postby humanoid » 10 May 2008 03:42

Ok folks, forgive this Wedgie noob, but I had my 7 towed to my mechanic to get some things done before my first drive. So is my manual tranny a 4 or a 5 speed. I shall dawn my flame suit for this....

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Postby jclay (RIP 2018) » 10 May 2008 15:26

I have the dual Weber 2 barrels and get about 20 MPG no matter how I drive it. Which is usually with my foot to the floor.

I will be switching back to Stromburgs (Uck!) in a few weeks, so I will be able to see which is better.

Have fun, drive fast & safe, be kewl,

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Postby Odd » 10 May 2008 15:53

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Mildred Hargis wrote: </i><b> ... the 1981 LT77 gearbox, the bonus is fifth gear will be a .74/1 ratio. </b><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"> Mildred, sorry to have to correct you, but actually the 5th gear ratio in the LT77 was:
0.83:1 in the earlier ones,
0.79:1 in the 1981'n'up ones
and then it was 0.77:1 in the R380...
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If you <b>really</b> want to optimize your mileage - you should fit the 2.84:1 crownwheel+pinion in
a "5sp Wedge" rear axle behind a R380 gearbox. Everything will still look stock... [:D]

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Postby Odd » 10 May 2008 15:58

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><b>Ok folks, forgive this Wedgie noob, but I had my 7 towed to my mechanic to get some things done before my first drive.
So is my manual tranny a 4 or a 5 speed. </b><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"> If it indeed is a fivespeed, and you've towed it - you have toasted it!
Let's hope it is a fourspeed you have...

You should NEVER tow a 5-sp Wedge with the rear axle turning!
Well, not with the propshaft still connected anyways...

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Postby saabfast » 10 May 2008 16:18

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Ok folks, forgive this Wedgie noob, but I had my 7 towed to my mechanic to get some things done before my first drive.
So is my manual tranny a 4 or a 5 speed.
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Did you look at the top of the gear knob....?
Alternatively, if it is not standard, try selecting all positions, if there are 5 it is 4 speed (inc reverse) and if 6 it is 5 speed.

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Postby humanoid » 10 May 2008 17:28

Top of the shift nob had no markings on it. Eh, no worries, I guess I'll find out on it's maiden voyage in a couple of days when I get it back from the mechanic.

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