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Gear Box Oil Change

Postby Workshop Help » 17 Apr 2008 00:01

As promised, after some 3500 miles since the overhaul of our 'B' series LT77 gearbox, we performed the first oil change this afternoon. For your enjoyment, photos of the grisly action are provided.

First we elevated the car to gain access to the underside. As the bones aren't has padded as they used to be, we use a rubber mat to lie on.

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Using a suitable wrench, the drain plug is removed and, (What is my good pot doing in the machine shed and why is it being used as a oil drain pan??? CALEB! ABNER! I've been looking for that pot for the past two months! I'll fix those two!), a receptacle is ready.

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Note how the draining ATF is no longer red in color as the contaminents pour into the drain pot.

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Here is the magnetic drain plug, note how much swarf as collected on the tip after 3500 miles service.

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The drain hole is hosed out with aerosol brake cleaner and this pencil type extension magnet is swabbed around in the gearbox sump to clean out as much swarf as possible.

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Reinstall the drain plug and torque to the proper setting. Move to the other side of the gearbox and remove the filler plug. It is the same size as the drain plug but does not have the magnetic tip. To fill the gearbox with 1.6 quarts of fluid, we use this gearbox oil pump that screws on the mouth of the oil container. To clarify, the brand name is StaLube and the pump must be used on a StaLube oil container. We refill the container from any standard plastic bottle of ATF as this enables the use of the pump without removal of the exhaust pipe or using a 4 ounce oil squirt gun. Truly, life is easy when using the proper tools.

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In conclusion, our original estimation has proved correct. The gearbox oil should be replaced each time the engine oil is changed for a long service life. The lack of a filtration system for the gearbox fluid results in contamination and discoloration of the red ATF in 3500 miles of service. The swarf on the drain plug tip shows the extant of damaging particles circulating thru the gearbox internals. As we cannot filter the gearbox fluid, we must change it on a regular basis, and indeed, flush out the sump residue to prolong the service life of the pump, bearings, gear teeth, bushes, and seals.

Of course, the factory publications omitted this information. But then, you and I are now the designated warranty/service departments for our cars. We suggest a revision in the service interval for these gearboxes be adhered to by all.

Now, where can I find a hickory switch for those two scampish nephews of mine?

Mildred Hargis

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Postby FI Spyder » 17 Apr 2008 01:18

Excellent pictures Mildred. Surpised at the swarf but then any new parts put in would have to be worn in. When I replaced my oil last summer there was little to no swarf on magnet. As the car had been aquired the previous year and stored the previous 8 I have no idea when or if the oil had been changed.

jclay, you said you change your oil yearly. What was your experience with swarf?

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Postby busheytrader » 18 Apr 2008 12:26

Your analysis is appreciated Mildred.

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Postby Peter Nuss » 21 Apr 2008 01:44

Nice pictures. You are aware you do not have the complete transmission mount assembly installed.

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Postby scotty » 21 Apr 2008 11:48

Mildred, your stories are always fun and entertaining. Can't wait for the next installment. Please keep them coming. Scotty.

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Postby humanoid » 21 Apr 2008 23:30

Very nice DIY with pics. BTW, what weight fluid do we use with a manual gearbox?

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Postby FI Spyder » 22 Apr 2008 00:47

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Very nice DIY with pics. BTW, what weight fluid do we use with a manual gearbox?
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If you do a search of this forum you'll find it is a much discussed topic divided into two main groups.

Use ATF as recommended at the time by Jaguar-Rover-Triumph. (allows for periodic changing of fluid and swarf).

Use modern synthetic 75W-90 as supplied by Pennzoil and the like ,which came after the ATF recommendation. (Gives superior lubricatin but makes it uneconomical to change quite as often.

Pro and con for each. Take your pick. Or try ATF for a bit, then switch to synthetic and report back to forum on your preference.


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