Double filament bulb holders...

Odd · Postby **Odd** » 01 Dec 2007 21:13

I know the double filament bulb holders are sourced from the Princess / Ambassador
- but does someone know the correct spare part number for these little beauties?

I've already got a set of four in my TR8 and now my friend wants to do the same to
his new '8 - but there are no Princess hulks left in Swedish breakers yards anymore...

For the record here's what I did: The rear lights are wired so that the outer left and inner
right position are fed from the left side fuse while the outer right and inner left position
are fed from the right side fuse. This gives the added benefit of never going one-eyed
if a fuse blows [or a 5W filament burns out]...

The [now] four 21W stop lamps are still fed from a single fuse [this will be corrected
when I fit the new '32 blade fuses' + '24 relays' centre I'm constructing into the car,
as a replacement for that sorry excuse for a fuse box]...

TR Tony · Postby **TR Tony** » 02 Dec 2007 18:40

Sorry Odd, can't help with the part number but just wanted to make sure I understand your set up - you have effectively got 4 rear 5W side lights & 4 21W brake lights?

Do you have the rear fog lights on your cars over there? In the UK some people have used the double filament holders to free up one of the rear light positions, then moved the rear fog wiring to that space to get rid of the fog lights hanging below the bumper - looks tidier.

I quite like your idea though with double lights each side ......

Tony

1981 2L FHC Cavalry Blue - very original & not rusty!
1980 3.5L V8 DHC Regency Red - on the road again.

mikehardwick · Postby **mikehardwick** » 02 Dec 2007 18:48

Odd - can't help with the Princess/Ambassador items, but with a bit of judicious filing the Stag bulb holders fit........

Mike

Odd · Postby **Odd** » 03 Dec 2007 08:47

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> Sorry Odd, ... but just wanted to make sure I understand your set up - you have effectively got 4 rear 5W side lights & 4 21W brake lights? <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Yes.
You know, four 21W brake lights do wake the mobile toting soccer-mums in their Urban Assault Vehicles up... [:D]
[A fifth one (a strip of high intensity LEDs) fitted into the top rear part of the luggage rack is currently under investigation...]
<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> Do you have the rear fog lights on your cars over there? <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Yes. But only a single one.
Twin rear fog lights are just sooo wrong. They are so easily misenterpreted as brake lights or faulty rear lights. Rear fog light should be a single one, and positioned on the side that are closest to the middle of the road, where it is less likely to be fouled by slush and muck on the road shoulder... In some countries I guess putting it in the middle is mandated by traffic law if it's a single light...
<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> In the UK some people have used the double filament holders to free up one of the rear light positions, then moved the rear fog wiring to that space to get rid of the fog lights hanging below the bumper - looks tidier. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Might look tidier, but increases the risk of a misinterpreting of what light it is; reluctant-to-let-go brake lights or [if a single one] half a brake light pair, or what? A single one in a position that is not the rear lights is much easier to understand - imho.
<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> I quite like your idea though with double lights each side ...... Tony <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
It does enhance traffic safety. At least in my opinion...
Tends to keep those behind you at a slightly greater distance as well...

mikehardwick · Postby **mikehardwick** » 05 Dec 2007 14:22

Odd - I don't see the problem. The idea of high intensity fog lights is, surely, to be seen by traffic approaching from behind in poor visibility - in that respect it doesn't matter where the thing is, or wether it's mistaken for a sticking brake light, or not - if it's seen it's done it's job! And, if there are two of them and they are significantly above road level, they will be seen sooner!

Mike

Jolyon39 · Postby **Jolyon39** » 07 Dec 2007 08:05

Hi Odd,

I today visited an old, closed car dismanling yard run by an equally old and retired owner. I saw three Austin Princess plus tons of other cars like Allegros. The yard is closed these days but if you telephone him he will go down and look for parts.

How many holders do you want? I took 4 (off two of the Princess's) but the owner reckons he has more stacked with lens somewhere in his "shed"

Someone here said that the Allegro has this twin holder as well so he might have quite a few.

Jolyon

Odd · Postby **Odd** » 07 Dec 2007 10:49

NZ would be sort of a long distance call...

In total?
I'd want 4 for each of the 7 TR8 we have in Sweden - so I can start selling this idea to the rest of the guys.
=28 in total...

Jolyon39 · Postby **Jolyon39** » 07 Dec 2007 18:59

I will call him on Monday

With a pinch of luck the Allegro will also have those holders and we can find enough. It is a huge old junk yard, all British cars rusting in long grass.

Jolyon

Hasbeen · Postby **Hasbeen** » 07 Dec 2007 22:00

Some photos would be nice Jolyon.
Those places are always interesting.

Hasbeen

Jolyon39 · Postby **Jolyon39** » 08 Dec 2007 05:09

Absolutely Hasbeen.

This place is about 2 hours drive from here so it will take a we while to do.

Worth it though.

Jolyon

danny · Postby **danny** » 08 Dec 2007 12:27

Hi,
Here is what I did. I fitted a red lense behind the clear reversing lamp lense, a double filament holder from a spitty mk4 is used for brake/stop lamp on the outside red & a single filament (original fitment) in the inside red. The stop light is on the outside red this gives some seperation between the stop lamp and the fog lamp.
No problems with the MOT ether.

Danny
1980 TR7 fhc Brooklands green
1967 Spitfire Mk3 Signal red
View my Blog http://www.waringstowntr7s.co.uk/blogs/index.php/danny

lebochet9 · Postby **lebochet9** » 16 Mar 2008 21:12

If its the same as Stag and Mk3 Spitfire, its a 518041.

Doesn't look quite the same in the manual drawings.

I think Metros had the same type of holder, but can't remember if they were double filament types though.

1980 DHC TR7-V8 (was an 8V, then a Sprint)
Back on the road after 3 years restoring...

ngtf · Postby **ngtf** » 16 Mar 2008 21:36

Listed with that exact number on the James Paddock site as double filament Stag rear light units. Â£4.25 each.

http://www.jamespaddock.co.uk/Stock.aspx?SubCategoryID=13&VehicleID=1&category=1

Gary

Eeyore rides again !!

EOR14W - Persian Aqua 2L Dhc, Now rebuilt and looking lovely - Sprint engine being prepared!

Odd · Postby **Odd** » 16 Mar 2008 22:40

Well, I've found 'the mother load' now, not just scattered nuggets in the terrain...

Tex Automotive in Britain have some 600 in stock "and can make more of them if needed"...
http://www.texautomotive.com/ Part# E99996

lebochet9 · Postby **lebochet9** » 18 Mar 2008 21:20

Hey hey - Super![:D][:D]
The Stag/Spitfire ones look like the push fit type at the top of the page, but the hole size is the same so maybe either will fit.

Its irrelvant though cos the E99996 is the one.

Going to order myself a pair[8D]

1980 DHC TR7-V8 (was an 8V, then a Sprint)
Back on the road after 3 years restoring...

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