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Postby andrewk » 11 Oct 2010 12:13

Hello Everyone,

I would just like a little confirmation from those who know a lot more than me about TR7 VIN and production records.

I've come across a car local to me with the VIN: SATTPADJ7AA408527

Would this be the 7th from last TR7 ever built and is there any significance increase in value of the car due to its late production/build sequence?

I look forward to any suggestions or comments.

Kind regards to all,

Andrew

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Postby TR Tony » 11 Oct 2010 13:58

Yes indeed, by number that would be 7th from last built.

I don't think that it makes a real difference to value over & above the normal criteria of the cars general condition, unless it has any unusual features - I think a very, very few late cars might have had electric windows or different switchgear? Other may know better about this however.

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Postby FI Spyder » 11 Oct 2010 16:48

Seventh from last built would have some price effect (as a curiosity) but not as much as condition of car and the fact that the later build the car the better built as in Solihull car better than Canley better than Speke.


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Postby John Wood » 11 Oct 2010 18:52

Not always true, I've seen some awful Solihull cars in my time, the rust proofing was the same throughout production. Zero.

Speke cars get some bad stick due to the indutrial relations of the time.

Canley cars were supposed to be better because of several revisions to the car. Whether they were actually put together better is doubtful.

Solihull cars get the better reputation from days gone by purely because they were newer and all the old rotten cars were the Speke ones. Fast forward 5-7 years and they were just as bad if not Ziebarted or looked after from new.

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Postby Steve-LPS-Thomas » 11 Oct 2010 19:04

Speke no evil.. People keep saying this but it just isn't true. If it was ever true.. 30 years suffering the ravages of time have levelled the playing field.

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Postby Odd » 12 Oct 2010 04:14

An odd feature on a few very late cars were horisontal pleats in the door trim... Common issue were vertical.

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Postby FI Spyder » 12 Oct 2010 15:56

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Not always true, I've seen some awful Solihull cars in my time, the rust proofing was the same throughout production. Zero.
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Mine (Solihull built) seems to have some kind of rustproofing like waxoil or some such. Not on drive train or Ebrake plate etc. so seems to have been done before anything was assembled to the bottom of the car. When I had my gas tank and rear suspension out I just added to it with more waxoil. Didn't do from rear bulkhead up as it seemed to be pretty good still. Ron said his Canley late 79 production 30th anniversary didn't have anything. I'm pretty sure mine wasn't aftermarket dealer as there is no evidence of any on anything else other than bottom of car. Either that or some one did a really good job of taping of the car, not something usually done with aftermarket jobs.

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Postby Chris Turner » 12 Oct 2010 23:09

8527 is a Silver leaf DHC with blue check interior. It is in fact the 6th from last TR7 convertible built and 4th from last UK spec DHC. It is the 8th from last TR built according to chassis number but the last cars werent always built in chassis number order.If you count, the numbers, 27,28,29,30,31,32,33 and 34 the car at Gaydon it totals 8 cars. Another useless statistic, out of the last 35 cars built, ie above 8500, 22 were Silverleaf and 25 had blue interior.Only one was a FHC, a French, European spec car in Pendelican white.

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Postby silverseven » 13 Oct 2010 00:57

mine is covered from one end to the other in a Zeibart like substance, that from my presumption was installed somewhere along the production line. My complete under-body was shot from front to back, and inside the hood,doors trunk lid and fenders....
(it definitely did not come from the dealer, as they surely would have charged extra for this ......)

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Postby Odd » 13 Oct 2010 01:15

Wasn't your car treated in Halifax? Canada code and all that...

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Postby silverseven » 13 Oct 2010 09:05

maybe???

It's not oily though, more like a extra layer of coating.

It's been flaking off for the past few years inside the boot area, the factory silver paint is underneath.

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Postby FI Spyder » 13 Oct 2010 16:14

Unlike Ron's, my car is a California car where one would not expect to see any undercoating. It isn't like his (which seems to be a traditional coating) but a more subtile still slightly sticky surface which is closer to waxoil substance than the black tar like coating we usually see and think of as undercoating. I have pulled the gas tank out as well as the front bumper off (to waxoil the bumper bar interior) and the only part that I could see rust on was the bracket that supports the radiator which I cleaned up and POR-15'd. The battery tray had surface rust (as they all do) because of the proximity to battery acids (fumes or spilt). There was also rust on engine block (which wouldn't have been sprayed) now POR-15'd. That's it. I only have to pull rear bumper to spray rear bumper bar.
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Postby andrewk » 13 Oct 2010 17:03

Thank you everyone and in particular to Tony & Chris !

The car is still silver with a blue check interior. However it is rough and from what I can see, bodged in a good few places. Nevertheless, I think because of its significance I might just have to save it.

Chris, that's fantastic regarding the build sequence, do you hold copies of the factory records, or is it worthwhile to purchase a Heritage Certificate? Also can we definitely assume it was built on the same day as 8534 ?

I wonder how many of the last 50 or 100 cars still exist, is there a register? Sorry for my ignorance, I'm fairly new to the TR7 game, albeit I've been a member and watching this excellent and friendly forum for sometime.

Once again, kind regards to all,

Andrew

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Postby Chris Turner » 13 Oct 2010 18:21

408527 was built on 10/10/81, 408534 was built on 16/10/81, the very last car built was in fact 408518 0n 22/10/81.
This and other facts regarding the last 35 cars built will be part of an article Im writing for the TR Drivers club mag.

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Postby silverseven » 14 Oct 2010 01:40

Chris,
Would it figure that my 82 which was built in Aug 81 and ends in 407799 would be one of the last 700 or so built?
(btw it's also silver leaf (mme) with a blue (non-check) interior)

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