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Postby JamesD » 01 Jan 2009 19:54

Thanks for all the advice on the bush replacement. I took a deep breath and started on this today, about 2 hours later it was all complete. Inserting the new poly bush proved to be no trouble at all...it just slipped in...after a 10 minute boil! Only difficult bits were the withdrawal of the steering column and its later extension with the recess in the correct place to accept the universal joint bolt. Not a one man job though - needed to call on the assistance of Mrs D who was happy to get her hands dirty in a common cause and is therefore awarded a gold star.

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Postby Limey7 » 23 Jul 2009 01:52

My bushing in the firewall for the steering column was shot so I ordered a new one through Moss. I had some good instructions on how to do the job from a fellow wedge owner. The instructions said heat the bushing in boiling water for 5 minutes or until soft. Well I boiled the hell out of the bushing and it hardly softened up. Probably because it is a poly bushing and not rubber. Anyway, I lost my patience and cut through it on one side.
I was then able to start the bushing in the hole and work the rest of it in until it snapped in place. I test drove it and it seems to work fine and because of the tight fit you can hardly tell there is a slice in it. My question is, has anyone else had this trouble? Do you think it'll hold up? Seems fine so far.
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Postby busheytrader » 23 Jul 2009 04:00

When I fitted polybushes to my antiroll bar (swaybar), they came precut otherwise there was no way they could have been fitted. The saddle clamps keep them very tightly in place and I'm sure the lube supplied with them helps.

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Postby bmcecosse » 23 Jul 2009 16:14

Does this 'bushing' actually DO anything - or is it just a 'firewall' seal ?

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Postby cliff » 23 Jul 2009 17:44

Firewall seal and it keeps the steering shaft from flopping around and rattling. Any slop in the steering anywhere will contribute to the dreaded steering wheel wobble. I made mine up in the shop on the lathe using a material called UHMW. It is solid with just a small amount of yield and does not rattle.
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Postby bmcecosse » 23 Jul 2009 21:43

Probably that was Ultra High Molecular Weight Polyethylene ! How did you get it into the firewall ? It's usually pretty stiff stuff!
On my car - the bush seems quite slack - but the steering rod doesn't seem to move about - I was wondering if it would be an MOT fail - but then I realised it doesn't actually seem to do much - except seal the space around the shaft, and is not supporting it any way.

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Postby Limey7 » 24 Jul 2009 00:32

bmcecosse,
I got it into the firewall by slicing one side of the bushing. That allowed me to get it started in the opening. I then worked it around until it seated. As far as an MOT failure, where I live in the US we have an annual state safety inspection. It's fairly comprehensive but probably not a grueling as an MOT. The bushing was in bad shape the last few years. It had split in two so I only had half a bushing inside the car under the dash. Prior to my inspection I'd glue and duct tape it in place. That temporarily eliminated the play in the steering column and my car would pass. The bushing doesn't support anything but it does keep the column centered in the firewall opening and probably eliminates some vibration. My steering now feels much better and there's hardly any play in the steering wheel. Thanks for the interest in my plight!
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Postby bmcecosse » 24 Jul 2009 09:17

Ahh - well - half a bush would likely fail here too! I have a little play in the steering -last year I was given an 'advisory' for the lower steering joint - but couldn't see anything wrong with it. I wire brushed it and coated it in oil to make it look 'new'! I also tighten up the rack damper slightly (and greased it) - and this year there was no mention at all. The 'play' amounts to 1/4" at the rim of the wheel - but the column is absolutely solid and doesn't seem to be supported by the firewall bush at all - I think it's just intended as a seal.

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Postby striker308 » 24 Jul 2009 19:14

Limey7, I felt your pain.....of the boiling and trying to knead it into place. However, even on a 30 degree day........I was able to put my poly in without cutting. I boiled it numerous times and cursed like crazy........

Hope never to have to do it again!!!

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Postby cliff » 24 Jul 2009 19:30

Yes, UHMW. I turned/left a flange on one end 'engine bay side' and slipped it over the steering shaft after disconnecting the shaft at the upper universal joint and used a spring washer to keep the new bushing pressed in place. Works good, lasts a long time...
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Postby Jolyon39 » 24 Jul 2009 21:50

Hi folks,

I understand your cutting the bushing but personally I found the job quite easy without resorting to cutting.

Here is what I did and the tool I used:

1. Boil the bush and then keep boiling it some more
2. Place it up against the hole in the firewall with part of the lip in (yes it is hot..ouch)
3. I used the bottom of a wood handled hammer to push it in (The heel of the handle).

The heel of the hammer handle has a slightly convex surface so I held the metal head of the hammer and just pushed the bushing in with the heel, well I sort of massaged the bush in. The hammer gave me extra reach so I was not jammed under the pedals of the car and it was an easy job.

My experience tells me that we can do this job without cutting.

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Postby FI Spyder » 25 Jul 2009 04:47

I boiled my poly bushing but not long enough i think. It was quite warm but I had to cut a bit out to get it started to "screw" it in. It will last for a very long time. The original rubber bushing was missing completely and when turning the wheel lots as in turning a corner the steering shaft would flop around in the firewall hole. Very difficult as the poly was very hard and difficult to access from the engine bay but you only have to do it once (per car). If you put it in from under dash side you've put it in backwards (it is not symmetrical.

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Postby john 215 » 25 Jul 2009 14:51

Hi
As far as MOT concerned, cannot fail on lower bush BUT can on upper, you make sense of that one [:)]
Boiled mine for an age and then struggled with a red hot bush [:0] and ended up with the 'screw in' method with plenty of the correct lubricant.
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Postby bmcecosse » 25 Jul 2009 21:00

Doesn't this bush - and the washers on the engine bay side - act to restrain the steering column shaft in the event of a hard frontal ?

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Postby FI Spyder » 26 Jul 2009 02:23

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Doesn't this bush - and the washers on the engine bay side - act to restrain the steering column shaft in the event of a hard frontal ?
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Nope. I believe, if I remember right, the steering is collapsible for that. Too hot and I'm too lazy right now to double check that. Because the steering is angled, hence the universal joint, it will flop around if not held in place by bush.

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