door window lifter rubber

[Traindriver69]

Hi all
was winding the window down on my Tr7 when the glass came off the lifter looking at it the rubber that holds the glass in was no good.
I have ordered one from robsport but my question is when it comes how hard is it too fit,if anyone has any tips or pictures I will need all the help I can get.
Many thanks in advance

[Hasbeen]

Traindriver, the rubber you are talking about is "insertion" rubber. There are probably tutorials on how to fit it on the net. I'd suggest you look for one. I fitted one window to the 8 with the stuff about 12 years ago, & got into a hell of a mess, so can perhaps advise what not to do.

It has to be wet with methylated spirits, [or perhaps kerosene, it's a while back], which melts the surface, so it feels like it is coated with very thin honey. This gets all over everything you touch with fingers coated with the BLACK stuff. It is not so much sticky, just smears everywhere.

I wiped it, both sides, with a very metho wet rag, & tried putting it into the channel still in the door & sliding the glass into it. No go, some of it folded under the glass.

I then made up 4 very long rubber bands, cutting a number open & tying them together. After re-wetting the rubber I folded it around the bottom of the glass, held it in place with the rubber bands right round the glass, & slid it into the channel, breaking the rubber bands & pulling them out afterwards. This worked sort of OK.

I then spent an hour or more, with a whole bottle of metho, cleaning the black smears off everything. At least it comes off reasonably easily.

I then left the window hard up for a few days. It worked, the window is still there, 12years later, but there must be a better way.

Hasbeen

[Traindriver69]

Hi hasbeen

Thanks for your reply the reason I posted on here is I have searched everywhere on the net and cannot find any guides unless anyone out there knows different.
I am not looking forward to doing it as your struggles prove.

[Cobber]

Toyota (and many others) have used this method of securing side windows for donkey's years, maybe if you searched for how to vids for Toyota side windows

[Beans]

Will probably be easier with the channel removed from the door.
But you will need reference points or measurements where to position the channel to the glass.

[sonscar]

I echo Beans reference to measurements,I replaced mine and had the window falling off the rollers everyone you wound it fully up.This was so irritating after a while that I had to fix it.Steve..

[Traindriver69]

I am not really worried about getting the glass and mechanism back together my main concern will be getting the glass and rubber in the lifter I would say it's not going to be easy.

[skertonman]

Having just rebuilt the passenger side lift mechanism on mine, I think you'll find refitting the lift slider rubbers to be the easy part.

It's like trying to do a puzzle by feel, with your hands at peculiar angles through the inspection holes in the door.

In regards to the lift slide rubbers, in my youth I cut up an old car inner tube, and used plenty of glue to refix the sliders to the window glass, and tapped them over the glass with a mallet to ensure the now tight fit slider went fully into position.

[Traindriver69]

I was thinking as a last resort I wonder if windscreen sealant/adhesive would work just squeeze it in between lifter and glass and let it dry out.

[Hasbeen]

Having replaced the winders on my 7, I did not want to take it all out, & preferred to fit the glass in place. Further, rather than have to measure everything 6 times inside the door, I thought it would be easier to get it in, then wind the window up hard. This positioned the glass correctly without any chance of getting it wrong.

Doing it again, I think II would fit it all DRY, then wet the stuff as best I could down the glass. If you try this it is on your head, I am not recommending it, but it might be easier.

Hasbeen