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Postby Sautie » 19 Mar 2015 05:01

SA is on the road to introducing Ethanol into our petrol. The literature lists many problems with this particular with our Triumphs not being used daily. I believe that this mixture is used in the UK. Does any one have solutions to the problems?

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Postby TR Tony » 19 Mar 2015 07:09

There is a very informative report on this matter here:

http://www.groups.tr-register.co.uk/wes ... pdate.html

The only problem I have experienced is degradation of rubber fuel lines - I replaced the engine bay fuel hoses on my 7 about 2 years ago with what I thought was ethanol resistant hose, it has already started to crack.

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Postby Hasbeen » 19 Mar 2015 07:35

We only had it as an option here, a bit cheaper than proper petrol. It certainly caused havoc with any natural rubber.

However Tony, your cracking hose may be from another cause, or made worse by one.

I fitted new fuel hose labelled "GATES" always the best quality in the past. It split radially with in 12 months dumping 23 litres of petrol on the shed floor over no more than 6 days. The petrol soaked tyres were throwaway.

We also had a new oil cooler hose on the 8's transmission fail in 26 kilometres.

Our transmission bloke gave us the reason. Much US stuff is now made in Mexico, & is of similar quality to some Indian stuff. He advised we use only hose, for any use, labelled made in USA. He also suggested we use only the higher pressure injection fuel hose.

That was a few years back now, & we've had no further hose problems.

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Postby FI Spyder » 19 Mar 2015 12:42

Not unusual to have bad rubber these days. Ethanol in fuel makes it "dryer". I use FI injector cleaner in my car(s) and think some of the carb cleaner stuff will do the same for carb cars in making the fuel less "dry". This may or may not be effective. In this local some gas uses some ethanol some don't and you can get an idea what doesn't on the internet etc. For example Shell hi test doesn't have it, Co-op all grades don't have it and so on. It will vary depending on where you get your gas from. On the West Coast most of our gas comes from Washington state Cherry Point refinery (from across the border). Makes more sense than shipping it across the Rockies from Alberta.

It is said it takes two gallons of fuel (in energy expended) to make one gallon of ethanol so it doesn't makes sense to use it. It's a concession to the farmers who grow corn (areas that use sugar cane like Brasil which is a better, more efficient way to do it). Also a feel good thing and a vote getting mechanism to the environmental crowd that ignore science in favour of said feel good moment.

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