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Postby ceejay » 14 Nov 2014 16:54

Does anyone use a fuel conditioner over the winter if so any good and what make

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Postby trekcarbonboy » 14 Nov 2014 17:04

I use STA-BIL and a full tank of fuel. Fires right up in the spring.

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Postby FI Spyder » 14 Nov 2014 18:33

I have done it and some years without. Didn't make any difference for that short amount of time. It's not expensive so wouldn't hurt. Always keep tank full throughout winter. Also use FI lub.

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Postby saabfast » 14 Nov 2014 19:21

I use Isopropanol 99% alcohol, available from some chemists and on-line. Generally much cheaper than 'proprietary' products, a 5 litre bottle was about £15, although seems to have gone up a bit now. I use about 0.5-1 litre in the tank when I take it off the road. It absorbs water and burns off with the fuel. I started when I had problems with water in the fuel a few years ago and saw it recommended and have used it without any problem since.

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Postby supercass » 14 Nov 2014 19:31

Can someone clarify this for me. Isn't alcohol the very thing that people are unhappy with as an additive to petrol? Supercass

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Postby saabfast » 14 Nov 2014 19:42

I think that's the Biofuels with 15% ethanol (?) which seem to have been dropped now, and assume that it is a problem in regular use for older engines. I admit I was following guidance somewhere on the net when I had a problem and it seemed to sort it as it apparently absorbs moisture. It is only used once a year in the tank when laid up so not a regular thing.

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Postby Hasbeen » 14 Nov 2014 22:55

A yachty friend of mine, had a large expensive gimballed stainless steel oven, & 4 burner methylated spirits, [alcohol] stove, with a 4 gallon tank for the methylated spirits.

He was very pedantic when boiling water for coffee/tea, to only put just enough water into the kettle, before lighting the stove. He reckoned the thing seemed to be taking longer to boil water.

Then his wife tried to bake a cake in the oven. It would not come up to the required temperature.

No net in 1970, but he did some study & discovered about alcohol absorbing water, & burning at progressively lower temperature as it did so.

He took a sample of his somewhere & had it tested. It was burning at 120C, no wonder it had trouble boiling water.

When he replaced the old stuff, with just a liter at a time of fresh metho, no further boiling problems.

I would never have fuel with any alcohol content in a car in hibernation. [xx(] It might start, but it may not have enough power to actually move. [}:)].

I used to add a little metho to my tank hoping to absorb any condensation in there. Then a chemist told me it was probably increasing the water content in my tank, so I stopped.

Fortunately our service stations around here at least, have stopped stocking alcohol blended fuel.

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Postby FI Spyder » 15 Nov 2014 00:07

There might be alcohol in it but they are meant to prevent fuel from oxidizing (going bad) and turning into varnish. Fuel that has gone bad smells really bad.

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Postby silverseven » 15 Nov 2014 01:16

I'd stick to brand name product and avoid the alternative low cost garbage like the product from Canadien Tire!

I used Stabil every time I put a car away for winter (even when kept inside a heated garage...) Its cheap insurance as sometimes my cars will sit longer than a couple of months and I NEVER start or run the car once its put away.
According to the label it also has cleaning agents in the formula to remove deposits and such so it might even help the car run better through its first tank of gas in the spring.....

It's a good idea to almost run your tank empty , and add the product into the tank before filling up to properly mix the product and then run the car for a little ride afterwards to get it through the carbs ect before packing the car up.

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Postby auto_cran » 15 Nov 2014 02:21

+1 for Sta-Bil.

Fill the tank with fresh gas and add the Sta-Bil according to the directions. Also hook up the battery to a Battery Tender.

Cheap insurance and come spring you'll be ready to go!

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Postby saabfast » 15 Nov 2014 09:17

Sta-Bil does not seem to be available in the UK. There is a Briggs & Stratton 'Fuel Fit' stabiliser mainly intended for lawn mowers but it might be similar by the sound of it. Not seen it in the shops (but have not really looked), but it is available from Amazon, £8.10 for 250ml to treat 10 litres of fuel.
I have mine hooked up to a CTEK battery conditioner for the winter.

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