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Postby Last TR » 21 Apr 2014 04:49

I started my interior remake with leather covers and new foam from The Roadster Factory. I finished the seat bottom on the passenger seat and started on the back. I found the new back foam was 2 to 3 inches too wide. I was able to reuse the old foam on the passenger seat, but the old driver seat foam was far too gone to use. For size comparison in the photo, I placed the new foam over the seat finished with the reused old foam. The only solution I can see is to take apart the new foam, cut it to the proper size, and glue it back together with new fabric tape. Needless to say, I am very disappointed. Has anyone else run into a similar problem and solved it to their satisfaction?

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Postby Maki » 21 Apr 2014 07:15

Try and find a good used original. I used a new type and was disappointed. I then renewed the covers with new and found an excellent original type which was and is far superior.

S&S or Robsport should be able to help.

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Postby john 215 » 21 Apr 2014 07:28

Hi,

Got mine from Simon over at Robsport, fitted a treat when I fitted leather in my DHC. Don't forget there are hard board inserts to be glued on the sides -

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Postby dursleyman » 21 Apr 2014 09:16

I got mine from Robsport as well and they fitted pretty well.

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Postby FI Spyder » 21 Apr 2014 13:17

When you've got lemons....make lemonaide. I would cut at the corner and tape as you've suggested if the tape will hold (and you can't send them back). Are you replacing the bottom rubber diaphragm? Mine had cracks so that was the only thing I replaced. Made a big difference in the firmness of the seat. I got one of the last original type as they went to rubber straps for a while in the interm. The diaphragms are now available again but I don't know how the repros stack up.

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Leather seats are going to get pretty hot. Ron (Orange Rag) has leather in his car and last summer at Shawnigan Lake Boys School car show he had to put a towel on the seats. Good thing you're getting A/C.[:p]



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Postby HDRider » 21 Apr 2014 13:36

I have used TRF foams in the past and not had this problem. I would contact them and talk to them about it. They have good customer service and will want to know about your problem.

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Postby whitenviro » 21 Apr 2014 16:48

Disappointing, but shouldn't be too hard to adjust them to make them fit correctly. It's just foam, so you can use a razor blade to cut out the excess and redo the tape at the edges. If you use any glue, just be sure it is a type that stays flexible once dried, like most contact cements or silicone adhesives. Stay away from superglue or gorilla glues; they will just form a hard spot you might feel, and they won't flex enough when you sit down on them, which will eventually cause the foam to tear next to the glued joints.

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Postby nick » 22 Apr 2014 15:16

Interestingly I had the opposite problem. I acquired some used black cloth/vinyl covers from a late model 7 or 8. When I put them on my '76 car they were too big. The fit was very lose. They must have made different size foam over the years.

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Postby Last TR » 22 Apr 2014 15:30

I'm going to call The Roadster Factory in the next day or two and see what they have to say. I suspect I'll end up "resizing" the foam using the same 3M trim adhesive I used for assembling the passenger seat. Probably not going to get it done on this trip to Oregon; I'm only here for a couple more days. I'll be back down before the Portland ABFM for another work session.

As far as the sir conditioning, it looks like that is not going to happen. I'll post separately about that, but I bought ventilated seat cushions last year that really help keep the backside cool in hot weather.

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Postby FI Spyder » 22 Apr 2014 19:13

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Last TR</i>

As far as the sir conditioning, it looks like that is not going to happen. I'll post separately about that, but I bought ventilated seat cushions last year that really help keep the backside cool in hot weather.
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That's not going to cut it. For you Alaskans you're going to at least need a bucket of ice water and a towel in the passenger foot well to keep moping your forehead.[:p][8D]


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Postby Hasbeen » 22 Apr 2014 23:06

I always found the sun coming through the windscreen, heating up the huge expanse of black plastic that is the dashboard was my problem. The radiant heat coming off that was what made the car uncomfortable in hot weather.

Before I fitted the air conditioning I made up a dash mat, out of some carpet I had lying around. It was in a few pieces, but after dying it black, it did not look too bad. It certainly made a difference, but the car was still uncomfortable on the 95F plus days we get so many of in summer around here.

It was almost good enough & I was going to get a motor trimmer to make a nice one, before the second hand air conditioning system came along. That made so much difference, that I will never own another car without air conditioning.

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Postby Last TR » 14 May 2014 01:30

<font color="black">The Roadster Factory sent my photo and comments to Newton Commercial, their supplier for seat foam. Here is Newton's response:
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<font color="blue">We have fitted our foam to a TR7 seat frame; and also compared our foam to an original TR7 squab foam, and can offer the following explanation.

When comparing our foam to an original foam, the foams match up. There is a very slight difference, with ours being slightly wider; however the difference is minimal. When placing this foam over an original seat; as in your customers picture; the foam does appear larger. However, when fitting to the seat frame; which we also tested, the foam squashes down to shape.

As the foam is fitted, it should be glued to the frame, which will help to shape the foam to the frame. You may be left with a small amount of excess, once completely fitted, down the edges of the foam. This can either be tucked in, or trimmed off.

I can completely understand your customers thoughts when looking at the foam compared to his fitted seat, but once he attempts to fit the foam to the frame, compressing it slightly as he goes, he should not have any problems.

I hope the above satisfies your query; please let me know if you wish for me to explain this further or supply any pictures to reference what I mean.

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<font color="black">Following this correspondence from Newton, I explained again to Albert at TRF that I had attempted to fit the new foam to the seat frame and it is more than slightly wider than the original. It will not compress slightly and will not fit without problems as suggested by Newton. There is far more than a small amount of excess to trim; the corners would wrap halfway back on the sides and the sides would wrap around the back. Albert has offered me a partial refund, but that doesn't solve the issue. I'll look for another supplier with smaller foam, and hang onto the oversize foam for now to modify if I don't find smaller ones.</font id="black">



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