Attempting Lift

[silverseven]

Here's how I do it at work ;
(maybe it's because I've worked all my life at car dealers , but I can't stand working on my back , and "only" work on my car in the shop on a lift.)
We also have a floor level drive on ramp at the shop which is excellent for oil changes and such when you don't want to play around with lifting the car on the "body"








Ron.

[Stag76]

It's surprising how little roof height is required to get a full lift. My shed is 3.0m at the gutter, and 3.6 at the peak, and that is plenty to lift my TR7, Stag or Celica to the hoists maximum.

TR7 Convertible
Sprint Motor
MegaSquirt EFI

[Spectatohead]

A lift would probably not work well here with the 7 foot ceiling in the garage. The house at the beach, that I someday hope to retire to, has a 12 foot ceiling in the garage. It is also already wired for 220 and the breaker is labeled "welder" so I told my wife that I needed a welder to plug in there. [:D]

Jim Clark
'80 TR8
'97 Maxima 5spd

[FI Spyder]

Good points. My sister in Edmonton has a high ceiling garage thst must be 12' as the roof angles from the second floor. I must say I envied that. The is a guy in the club that has a lift and he raises the lift high enough to use a stool on casters so he can sit and roll himself around to were he needs to be. Might be even better than standing. Don't know until one's actually done it but it works for him. some times it's nice to work on a crawler.

Quick thinking, Jim on that welder. A few years ago I put 220 sub panel down in garage and had lines for 220v compressor, 120v for welder, 220v for oven for powder coating,extra lighting and outlets as well as 4 lines going back into house for freezer, fireplace extra outlets. Got it passed on final inspection but had a numer of consultations as there's always new laws that aren't in the books.

- - -TR7 Spider - - - 1978 Spitfire- - - - 1976 Spitfire - - 1988 Tercel 4X4 - Kali on Integra - 1991 Integra - Yellow TCT

[john 215]

Hi Peter,

That is one scary video [:0] especially writing as someone who is under one of those things everyday, lucky we have lifts manufactured by very reputable companies and inspected every six month by a insurance engineer, something that does need to be done if you had one for home use, which is madness especially when you can buy made in China junk manufactured out of tin foil [V] .

I personally would never support a car on a sprung suspension part, jacking points only, then give it a good rock when a inch or so off the ground if in doubt. Never had a conversation with someone who has had a car fall on there head [xx(]it would never happen they would be dead simple as that. I was told by the engineer that comes into work to check our ramps that, it is the only lifting device you are allowed to work under with only one support involved.

Having over the years seen a couple of car's slip off two post ramps for God sake you guys having them at home be bl88dy careful. What can seem ok can very quickly change when heavy components such as engines etc. are removed and the balance points change leading to things going horribly wrong. DO NOT TAKE CHANCES THEY WILL KILL YOU

Cheers John


LIVE LIFE A QUARTER OF A MILE AT A TIME!

1976 Speke FHC Beauty Now with an overdrive conversion

1979 3.5 FHC(STATUS PENDING!!)

1982 2.0 DHC NOW A 4.6, BUILT NOT BROUGHT !!!!

[Odd]

Thank God we've got <u>real</u> power in this country;
230V 16A single phase circuits for ordinary domestic use and
400V 16A three phase circuits for the 'serious' stuff.

I had the house increased to 400V 25A main breakers when I started the build of [url="http://s278.photobucket.com/user/OddHedberg/slideshow/Bygget/?albumview=slideshow"]the Man Cave[/url] some years back.
So, as it is wired now I (can) use 400V 16A 3-ph to most of my 'toys/tools' (Compressor, Welders, Drill press, 2-pillar Hoist etc).
That's almost 20kW - each...[:D]

And going back to the original topic: Why not fit thick enough rubber pads on the arms - and drill a
locating hole through it - and use the designed to be used for lifting oem jacking points with the spigots?
That's what I intend to do with my hoist... I've got 3.3 to 4.5 m to the roof. [~11 to ~15 ft]

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[DNK]

Ron- In that pic with the back locations.There is a crumpled,flattened or something piece of metal.
What was that I see it in mine too?

Don
Stick a Wedge In It
80 TR7 V8 Kick in the pants

[DNK]

ODD, Those point are to close to the body edge to get a pad on

It's about 67 mm from the edge.
I guess you could drill a hole in the pad offset.
The one in the rear is fairly close to a part that curves down so it it not flat.
Guess you could do the same there.
What's structural under that?

Don
Stick a Wedge In It
80 TR7 V8 Kick in the pants

[FI Spyder]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by DNK</i>

Ron- In that pic with the back locations.There is a crumpled,flattened or something piece of metal.
What was that I see it in mine too?
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I read somewhere that bracket was used as a tie down point used during shipping. most are caved in as they have been used as a support point at some time in their lives. Not meant for that.

Good point made that you have to be very careful with support points when removing heavy parts like engine, trans, rear axle.

I've only had one incidence. When jacking up on side of the Integra on the jack point the jack was on rough cement driveway and the wheels couldn't move over it as the car was raised, jack slipped off jack point and rested on car floor denting it. I now have a plate steel for the jack wheels have something smooth to turn on. Never in any danger of course as never get near the car unless it's on jack stands. If supporting on a new point or new car always give the heave ho to make sure it's not going anywhere.

- - -TR7 Spider - - - 1978 Spitfire- - - - 1976 Spitfire - - 1988 Tercel 4X4 - Kali on Integra - 1991 Integra - Yellow TCT

[Odd]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> ODD, Those point are to close to the body edge to get a pad on <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"> I've used a wooden block to fit inbetween the spigot area and the lifting device - thus widening the footprint
and closely following the shape of the car. I guess I'll make hard rubber pads along the same idea...

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[silverseven]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by DNK</i>

Ron- In that pic with the back locations.There is a crumpled,flattened or something piece of metal.
What was that I see it in mine too....
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The supposed tie down hook possibly ??

we will use this pic for reference ;



I'm not sure if it's the right place to lift the car , but it works for me..... I do have to straighten it ou from time time though. I guess it could probably be removed outright with little effort, after all it's not probably ever get used to transport tiedown ever!

Btw John, you work at a dealer , where do you lift your car ???

Ron.

[john 215]

Hi Ron,

Not lifted my car's on a two poster for years, we have a couple of four posters, one for MOT Tests and a geometry alignment ramp, if it needs to go wheel free then both these ramps have a jacking beams on them and use the jacking points with wood blocks.





Cheers John


LIVE LIFE A QUARTER OF A MILE AT A TIME!

1976 Speke FHC Beauty Now with an overdrive conversion

1979 3.5 FHC(STATUS PENDING!!)

1982 2.0 DHC NOW A 4.6, BUILT NOT BROUGHT !!!!

[DNK]

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Mines all flattened

Don
Stick a Wedge In It
80 TR7 V8 Kick in the pants

[Stag76]

My tie-down points have not always looked like that...they have spent most of their life flattened against the floor.

I was advised to lift the TR7 under the trailing arms as lifting forward of the trailing arm mounting point gives you a central lift point too close to the centre of gravity of the car. The original jacking points were designed to be used individually for removing wheels, hence only one jack was supplied.

There have been a lot more cars fall off trolley jacks than hoists, with the same result.

TR7 Convertible
Sprint Motor
MegaSquirt EFI