FHC Rear Parcel Shelf refurb

john 215 · Postby **john 215** » 08 Dec 2013 09:00

Hi Tony,

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Who is the guy from Bristol area with the pair of very early coupes that he has restored, with V8 power? Him & his wife have been along to some shows this year. Embarrassingly I can't remember their names right this moment

Anyway, on his cars he told me he stripped the old vinyl off then gave the fibeboard several coats of dilute PVA, which both seals the surface & strengthens the board. Then he simply sprayed the shelf with several coats of satin black paint. The end result looks decent.

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You are talking about Alan's car's, ' Laney ' on here, we looked at the rear shelf's he had re-worked up at Gaydon S.T.A.R. event. They really did look good almost to the point you couldn't tell without looking very close.

Was always led to believe the fibre glass repo's were a poor fit in that they were too short ?

Mine has separated in my FHC and must admit it does annoy me but not been brave enough to have a go at it. If an early three pocket type came up for sale then would have a go then at the worse one.

Cheers John

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Sautie · Postby **Sautie** » 08 Dec 2013 09:31

My daughter Megan fitted a fibreglass one to her Solihull 7 FHC that was covered in blue vinyl to match the interior. 5 years on and no problems.

TR Tony · Postby **TR Tony** » 08 Dec 2013 09:47

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by john 215

You are talking about Alan's car's, ' Laney ' on here, we looked at the rear shelf's he had re-worked up at Gaydon S.T.A.R. event. They really did look good almost to the point you couldn't tell without looking very close.

Was always led to believe the fibre glass repo's were a poor fit in that they were too short ?

Mine has separated in my FHC and must admit it does annoy me but not been brave enough to have a go at it. If an early three pocket type came up for sale then would have a go then at the worse one.
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Ah yes John, that's the guy. Sorry Alan! He had done a great job & the parcel shelf looked good. I have the old one out of my TR8 which I have stripped off, I've done the PVA treatment but now need to find the time to spray it & see what it comes out like.

Tony

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John Wood · Postby **John Wood** » 08 Dec 2013 13:37

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by TR Tony

I should keep yours as a museum piece[:D]

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Museum? I've always dreamed about a TR7 and TR8 museum[:D]

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Workshop Help · Postby **Workshop Help** » 08 Dec 2013 13:49

Keep dreaming there, John. In the mean time, I'll be scampering about in my scruffy TR7 as The Deity and Sir John Black intended the car to do.

The museum pieces, garage queens, and trailered show boats on the de' Elegance circuit make me giggle as their owners are betraying the true purpose of the cars.

Mildred Hargis

John Wood · Postby **John Wood** » 08 Dec 2013 16:06

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Mildred

Keep dreaming there, John. In the mean time, I'll be scampering about in my scruffy TR7 as The Deity and Sir John Black intended the car to do.

The museum pieces, garage queens, and trailered show boats on the de' Elegance circuit make me giggle as their owners are betraying the true purpose of the cars.

Mildred Hargis
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I think the businessmen wanted you to buy new every 2-3 years, otherwise their company would be cream crackered. It was not their intention for you to retain it and use for a lifetime.

I think we all use our cars. But as they get older you treat it better like your body. Less abuse will keep it looking young.

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Workshop Help · Postby **Workshop Help** » 08 Dec 2013 16:20

If you don't use it, you will lose it. There is a trite little truism for you, John.

As for the makers and purveyors of anything manufactured, they have massive marketing departments seeking new customers for their products. Not the repeat customers as the product must last awhile and in the meantime, the new customer must be enticed to purchase before last years product wears out.

It is actually in my interest to make any product last a lifetime, particularly a high ticket item like a car. The longer any product lasts, the less it costs on a yearly basis.

Mildred Hargis

John Wood · Postby **John Wood** » 08 Dec 2013 18:49

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Mildred

If you don't use it, you will lose it. There is a trite little truism for you, John.

As for the makers and purveyors of anything manufactured, they have massive marketing departments seeking new customers for their products. Not the repeat customers as the product must last awhile and in the meantime, the new customer must be enticed to purchase before last years product wears out.

It is actually in my interest to make any product last a lifetime, particularly a high ticket item like a car. The longer any product lasts, the less it costs on a yearly basis.

Mildred Hargis
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Mildred we are merely custodians of anything we own. Nothing is for ever.

I disagree, your best customers are your existing customers. First rule of sales.

Do you still retain gas lighting and coal fires in this modern time?

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moestr7v8 · Postby **moestr7v8** » 08 Dec 2013 19:46

Hi Stevie
I agree with Chris,Esther has a fibre glass one in her coupe which was fitted by the previous owner about six years ago and it still looks good.[;)]
cheers
Moe

Workshop Help · Postby **Workshop Help** » 08 Dec 2013 19:55

Wrong, John. The first rule of sales is to sell to new customers, everyday. The second rule of sales is to sell a product worth selling so yesterdays customers will influence they're friends and neighbors to buy it. The third rule of sales is to do both the above, all the time. The fourth rule of sales is return customers are a treasure as they often bring in new customers when they come back for more.

As for natural gas and coal, no they aren't used for direct illumination, but they are used for power generation to make illumination.

Mildred Hargis

Maxwell · Postby **Maxwell** » 08 Dec 2013 19:58

John

Do you still retain gas lighting and coal fires in this modern time?

I hope you're not advocating we all move on to Puntos and Corsas!

Maxwell [:D]

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nick · Postby **nick** » 08 Dec 2013 21:44

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Stevie P

Some great ideas here.

What's the issues with the fibreglass ones?

I've heard they are not very good.

Steve
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If you look on Rimmers site they show the fiberglass one in a two pocket. The one I saw did not even have the cutouts for the seat belts. The fiberglass had a texture deep enough that it would require fairing if it was to be covered. Re-upholstering an old one wouldn't be any more work then getting the fiberglass one to look good.

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John Wood · Postby **John Wood** » 09 Dec 2013 11:41

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Mildred

Wrong, John. The first rule of sales is to sell to new customers, everyday. The second rule of sales is to sell a product worth selling so yesterdays customers will influence they're friends and neighbors to buy it. The third rule of sales is to do both the above, all the time. The fourth rule of sales is return customers are a treasure as they often bring in new customers when they come back for more.

As for natural gas and coal, no they aren't used for direct illumination, but they are used for power generation to make illumination.

Mildred Hargis
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We are way off topic and no one else will care or be interested in our differing of opinions, repect mine and i'll respect yours. It is an opinion and I won't change mine the more you bleat on. If you want a debate about sales or anything else PM me. I will respond.

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RUDDY · Postby **RUDDY** » 09 Dec 2013 13:18

Regarding the rear parcel shelves I think the original vinyl must have been heated and vacuum formed onto the hardboard and this is probably the only way of recovering neatly in one piece of vinyl.

I used the fibreglass one when I built my last car, a bit plasticky in its ppearance but preferred over a warped and saggy original.

All the best, Paul

FI Spyder · Postby **FI Spyder** » 09 Dec 2013 13:48

Some times you get interesting discussions when you go off topic (some times not).

Did a little recon. First you would have to find some place that would sell you some thermoforming vinyl like this stuff.

http://www.buypmc.com/vinyl-ab/

Then you could make yourself a home made vacuum forming chamber out of plywood and use your shopvac (this guy used his nearby central vac) and a heat gun and you could do it professionally.

http://vimeo.com/8614310

Not that hard to do. Some times you just have to get a little creative like when I made my own transmission jack out of ATV scissor lift ($40) and some stuff I had lying around.

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