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Postby Hasbeen » 05 Nov 2013 05:50

I feel like I've won the lottery, well almost.

When I found my front tyres were almost 8 years old, I started thinking about replacements. I was worried about wheel wobble, as none of the places I have used for on car balancing still do it. Mostly they don't have an operator. Still, they would not sell me their balancer, as they use it for something else, or they had scrapped it when it stopped working.

Balancing was going to be a worry, unless I was very lucky.

I tried a little one man tyre shop in my local town, I had never tried before. Yes he had an on car balancer, but he didn't work it. The bloke who did retired about 5 years ago, & with not much use for it, he hadn't bothered with it. It was under an inch or so dust in the corner.

No I couldn't use it, his insurance wouldn't cover it.

Yes he'd sell it to me. YAHOO!!!

It is an Prestige model, the large sit on model. They cost about $10.000 today, & are 3 month delivery, or were a year ago when I enquired about a new one.

It has not worked for about 5 years, so I'm taking a chance on it, but at $500 it is worth it.

Sorry I'm too far away from all of you to fix your wobbles for you, but my 7 is going to run smmmooothly, with no wobble. Of course I'll balance the wheels for any close enough to bring their car to me.

Christmas has come early for old Hasbeen.

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Postby Cobber » 05 Nov 2013 07:58

<font size="2"><font face="Comic Sans MS">Watchout Hasbeen, buying this sort of stuff, you'll end up getting as bad as me!</font id="Comic Sans MS"></font id="size2">


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Postby DNK » 05 Nov 2013 10:48

Alright, we are all going to Hasbeen's for a balancing party
BYOB, of course

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Postby Workshop Help » 05 Nov 2013 10:59

If you latch on to a tire shaver, you'll have them in a line out the door.

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Postby Hasbeen » 06 Nov 2013 02:27

No chance Cobber, I've only got 20 acres.

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Postby Cobber » 06 Nov 2013 02:42

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Hasbeen</i>


No chance Cobber, I've only got 20 acres.

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I don't have acreage anymore, I've got most the stuff crammed into suburbia! with some at other sites.</font id="Comic Sans MS"></font id="size2">


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Postby Hasbeen » 09 Nov 2013 08:14

Well it's home, but it killed the 7 getting it there, sort of.

It is now confirmed my tick was the fuel pump.

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Postby Workshop Help » 09 Nov 2013 11:16

Now Hasbeen, don't be so coy as to make us beg why the fuel pump turned into a ticking time bomb! Go on now, confess. Was it caused by some of your handiwork, or a 'natural' component failure?

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Postby Hasbeen » 09 Nov 2013 12:22

More in the ticking bomb thread Mildred, but I am starting to think you might be right. I know curiosity killed the cat, but I seem to recall overconfidence killed something, & it might be my fuel pump.

Our pumps are much harder to fit as we have a steering column right in the way. It is definitely one of those jobs requiring 3 hands, but you can only fit your own in there anyway. Most of us in Oz have given up trying to get the second bolt in the pump, without the lever coming off the cam on the jack shaft. We have fitted studs, & can still get it wrong as often as right.

I did not look for problems after fitting the extra spacer under the pump, just closed the bonnet & ran the car. Perhaps I would have heard the ticking & fixed it, if I'd looked. As they say, no fool like an old fool, who SHOULD KNOW BETTER.

In the ticking thread I mention I gave my spare pump to a mate restoring a Dolly Sprint. He had bent the lever on his pump, trying to start his new engine, with the lever off the cam. The lever was well bent.

I must stop giving spares away. Every time I do, it seems to precipitate me braking the same part on the 7.

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Postby Hasbeen » 15 Nov 2013 04:59

OK, now back to a smooth steering 7.

My son has found a source of gen sets. He can get a diesel 8KVA 3 phase set for just A$339.

I am waiting on my electrical bloke to tell me what he can do a conversion on the balancer from 3 to single phase for. Apart from the motor, the thing runs on single phase, & I should imagine the electronics on 9V DC.

With our vulnerability to being flooded in, with the power out for days, the gen set would be nice, we lost some hundreds of dollars worth of frozen food last time. This thing should have no trouble driving them & a few other things.

They come from Tasmania, about 1300 miles away, & are quoting free delivery. If that is the case, I doubt I could resist.

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Postby Cobber » 15 Nov 2013 06:54

A genset is the same solution I came to for operating 3 phase workshop equipment.
It's great as you can always buy 2nd hand 3 phase stuff a lot cheaper than single phase and you get a back up power supply.


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Postby john 215 » 16 Nov 2013 05:42

Hi,

Just been attending a BMW Technical Forum, a get together of After Sales managers, warranty admin and Senior Tech's. Alot of hush hush new stuff comming but one thing caught my eye was a off car balancer with a difference, it put a deflection in the tyre, as if the weight of the car was acting on it , and then spin it up so giving a true to life tyre shape.

We are moving to a very flash new building next year and looks like they will be putting one in [:D] not cheap though. [:0] at a ' discount ' price of 16 K

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Postby Hasbeen » 16 Nov 2013 07:25

Yes john, they are ridiculously expensive, including the thing I've bought.

The off car simple balancers are a third of the price. I guess with the on car balancer, & your new high tech thing, there is a lot of development cost, & tooling cost, to be amortised over fairly small production runs.

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Postby DutchTriumph » 16 Nov 2013 12:35

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Hasbeen</i>

8KVA 3 phase

I am waiting on my electrical bloke to tell me what he can do a conversion on the balancer from 3 to single phase for.

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Over here we have 230v, 16A single phase.
That's a maximum of 230 x 16 = 3680W = 3,68kW (kVA).
Not enough power to get a 8kVA motor running.

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Postby Hasbeen » 25 Dec 2013 07:22

Hi Peter.

I was thinking of a lower power motor. The balancer actually has a 4 KVA motor, but obviously may require more to start.

The thing has much more power than I will ever require, as it also does truck balancing, with would require more power to spin the heavy wheels.

Decided to go for a gen set, More on another thread.

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