Going To The Dark Side

FI Spyder · Postby **FI Spyder** » 27 Sep 2013 01:55

OK. I'm going to the dark side. Last two days were sunny so yesterday did the oil and filter on the Integra. Today I took the TR7 into town to warm up the oil so I could change it and filter. Never had a problem before. Filled it up and drove it off the ramp's, oil light came on started tapping, drove it back up. Pile of oil under the car. Undo filter, everything seemed OK, put it back on, add a couple of quarts. Tried it again, oil light went off then on, shut it down right away. Oil coming out of filter. Take it off, put it back on, being extra careful to make sure cover was in grove. Add a couple more quarts. Tried again, success. Now I don't mind getting a little oil on my hands but this time it was really touchy getting the cover centered/sealed. Next year I'm getting an adapter for screw in. Make use of those three screw in's that were sent by mistake on a previous order.

- - -TR7 Spider - - - 1978 Spitfire- - - - 1976 Spitfire - - 1988 Tercel 4X4 - Kali on Integra - 1991 Integra - Yellow TCT

Hasbeen · Postby **Hasbeen** » 27 Sep 2013 06:21

Never had that problem myself Spyder, perhaps I'm lucky.

I have the screw on filter system on my new 7 motor. I am not that happy with it. I have only changed it once, & had a lot of trouble getting it off. Perhaps it had been screwed on too hard by the person who fitted it.

None of the filter removal tools I have could be got on with a good grip & turned in the space. I was about to drive a screwdriver through it, when I went & pinched the heavy washing up rubber gloves. These gave me just enough grip to get it started & then off.

It was definitely more hassle than using a spanner on the bolt through the canister, & then I had the problem of explaining where the rubber gloves, now in the bin, had gone.

Hasbeen

saabfast · Postby **saabfast** » 27 Sep 2013 11:30

I did not seat my canister properly the first time, not happy with a dump of oil over the courtyard! Have made double sure it is right before starting up ever since. (On the other cars with spin-ons I use a strip of emery/wet and dry to get a grip for undoing and don't normally have a problem - providing I have put them on with hand tightening, although I do have a chain tool to use with the socket drive if a garage gorilla has done it).

Alan
Saab 9000 Stg 1
Saab 9000 2.3 FPT Auto (now gone that others might live)
Saab 9000 2.3 LPT Auto
'81 TR7 DHC

FI Spyder · Postby **FI Spyder** » 27 Sep 2013 13:34

I have a spin on removal tool I got for the Integra as you are working up in a tiny space so removal won't be a problem. It fits on a 3/8" ratchet and has spring loaded adjustable jaws that clamp onto the filter as you undo it.

The Toyota has the filter sticking out the side so you can get both hands on it but I use this tool anyways.

- - -TR7 Spider - - - 1978 Spitfire- - - - 1976 Spitfire - - 1988 Tercel 4X4 - Kali on Integra - 1991 Integra - Yellow TCT

Dan B · Postby **Dan B** » 27 Sep 2013 14:43

So you are trading for an MG?

trekcarbonboy · Postby **trekcarbonboy** » 27 Sep 2013 15:50

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dan B

So you are trading for an MG?
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That's where I thought this thread was going. [:I]

Craig '75 2.0 FHC

FI Spyder · Postby **FI Spyder** » 27 Sep 2013 19:15

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dan B

So you are trading for an MG?
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No, not going that dark....just going away from original(ity).

- - -TR7 Spider - - - 1978 Spitfire- - - - 1976 Spitfire - - 1988 Tercel 4X4 - Kali on Integra - 1991 Integra - Yellow TCT

DNK · Postby **DNK** » 27 Sep 2013 19:48

Is it the canister style where you change the inside?

Don
Stick a Wedge In It
80 TR7 V8 Kick in the pants

saabfast · Postby **saabfast** » 27 Sep 2013 21:02

Yes, its a metal housing with centre bolt to pull it in against a seal and a loose changeable filter element inside. Spin on type is a complete unit of canister and element in one and the whole thing is changed. Its is better in that the seal is on the unit and does not have to be removed and replaced in a hidden slot, and the oil does not run out over the bolt and your hand when you undo it. Hmmm, just wondering why I have not got one after writing that...

Alan
Saab 9000 Stg 1
Saab 9000 2.3 FPT Auto (now gone that others might live)
Saab 9000 2.3 LPT Auto
'81 TR7 DHC

DNK · Postby **DNK** » 27 Sep 2013 22:27

What usually causes that is either no seal...or to many seals

Don
Stick a Wedge In It
80 TR7 V8 Kick in the pants

Hasbeen · Postby **Hasbeen** » 28 Sep 2013 00:01

Actually every spin on oil filter on my various cars, apart from this new aftermarket one on the 7, is horizontal. They start to spill half their content as soon as the seal is broken. I find I get more oil trying to run down my arm, to drip off my elbow with them, than ever I did with the old canister system on the 7.

That removal tool you show Spyder may be just the tool to allow the removal of the damn things, without having oil run down your arm. I'll look for one.

Hasbeen

Cobber · Postby **Cobber** » 28 Sep 2013 03:02

Hasbeen I've got one like this:

They work a treat and you can put an extension bar on them if needed.

"Keep calm, relax, focus on the problem & PULL THE BLOODY TRIGGER"

80'Triumph TR7, 73'Land Rover (Ford 351. V8),
'89 Ford Fairlane
'98 MG-F, 69'Ford F250.
76' Ford F100

FI Spyder · Postby **FI Spyder** » 28 Sep 2013 13:58

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Hasbeen

Actually every spin on oil filter on my various cars, apart from this new aftermarket one on the 7, is horizontal. They start to spill half their content as soon as the seal is broken. I find I get more oil trying to run down my arm, to drip off my elbow with them, than ever I did with the old canister system on the 7.

That removal tool you show Spyder may be just the tool to allow the removal of the damn things, without having oil run down your arm. I'll look for one.
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The trick with side mounted filters is to let the car sit for a good amount of time draining. I take the car for a run into town in the morning (to get supplies) and to get the oil warm. Let it sit for a bit to let the oil cool down a bit. Let the oil drain for a few hours. Always lots of stuff to do while this is happening. When there is no more oil draining (not even drops) put plug back in and when you unscrew the side mounted oil filter there won't be enough oil in it to spill around. This makes changing oil and filter the better part of the day start to finish you aren't actually spending any more time on it and every last bit of the oil is drained out that will come out.

The wrench shown is Lisle Adjustable Oil Filter Wrench.

Available different places on line, not sure of availability in Oz. I got it someplace locally, can't remember were.

Example:
http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/p-16214-lisle-63250.aspx

- - -TR7 Spider - - - 1978 Spitfire- - - - 1976 Spitfire - - 1988 Tercel 4X4 - Kali on Integra - 1991 Integra - Yellow TCT

busheytrader · Postby **busheytrader** » 28 Sep 2013 18:05

Phew.....No MG.

Cobber · Postby **Cobber** » 28 Sep 2013 21:43

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by busheytrader

Phew.....No MG.
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Actually it doesn't matter if you have a MG, Triumph, Healey or Jag, technically we are all on the dark side as our cars all use Lucas electrics! [:D]

"Keep calm, relax, focus on the problem & PULL THE BLOODY TRIGGER"

80'Triumph TR7, 73'Land Rover (Ford 351. V8),
'89 Ford Fairlane
'98 MG-F, 69'Ford F250.
76' Ford F100

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