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Things don't always go to plan

Postby prlee » 28 Oct 2012 15:49

Our plan this weekend was to visit my parents in Somerset and spend some time getting the Spitfire's rear suspension rebuilt.

The TR7 was well overdue for an oil change so we decided to take it and use our friends pit down there. I also needed to change the upper steering UJ and fit a new hot air pipe and bracket. I reckoned the whole thing would take than 2 hours Saturday morning leaving Saturday afternoon and Sunday to work on the Spitfire.

Things did not go quite as intended.

The old engine oil was drained, gearbox topped up – only needed a drop, and the diff checked – it has never needed topping up. Had a check around under the car, all seemed good, slight play in the rear propshaft UJ – could be the remaining source of high speed vibration.

Next job was replacing the steering UJ, the handbook says remove the pinch bolts, slide the old joint down the lower shaft to free from the upper, remove and replace – Nah didn’t work out that easy.

I removed the pinch bolts, slide the UJ down with some light tapping, then it stuck, not quite far enough to get free from the upper shaft. I loosened the joint onto the steering rack with no luck. I finally loosened the column clamp inside the car it was free, I went to remove the UJ from the lower column and the whole column came out even thought its bolts was still in place although loose.

My concern now was how was I going to get it all back in place and lined up.

Refitted the lower shaft in what I thought was the same position, fitted the new UJ to the lower shaft, went to slide it onto the upper column but spotted the new UJ had the pinch bolt 180deg different to the old. So I removed the lower column again and refitted it at 180 deg. This worked and the UJ slid on to the upper column but the not far enough to insert the pinch bolt.

To cut the story short, I had to adjust the upper column a few times, mess with the lower, and get a the friend to pull on the steering wheel so that everything went back correctly.

During all this I took a rest to fit the new hot air pipe, removed a bolt on the thermostat housing, fitted the bracket and replaced the bolt only to find a PO had stripped the thread in the housing. I managed to get the bolt back in without the bracket, but it hangs in by about one thread.

So after over 4 hours of frustration I had the car back together, gave up any plan to work on the Spitfire and struggled home today concerned that I maybe losing coolant.

At least we are back home now, looks like the inlet manifold will have to come out so it can be fitted with helicoils.

The new UJ has made a big improvement to the steering and there was only a slight weep from the thermostat housing, will probably SORN the car for the winter now.


Pete
1981 Carmelian Red 2 litre DHC.
Polybush, KYB shocks, electric fan, electric windows and electronic ignition roller bearing struts and anti-dive kit - otherwise standard
1979 Pageant Blue Spitfire 1500 - some restoration in progress.

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Postby FI Spyder » 28 Oct 2012 17:05

Things always go to plan but sometimes you don't have the right plan.[:p]

Always multiply the time by 4.5.



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Postby prlee » 28 Oct 2012 18:39

Yup never learn:-(

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Polybush, KYB shocks, electric fan, electric windows and electronic ignition roller bearing struts and anti-dive kit - otherwise standard
1979 Pageant Blue Spitfire 1500 - some restoration in progress.

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Postby rosey » 29 Oct 2012 19:28

Hope for the best & prepare for the worst - I.T. disaster recovery motto

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Postby prlee » 30 Oct 2012 16:53

Did I mention that on the way home I found a new vibration from somewhere in the steering column cowl, annoying everytime I touched 3000 rpm.

And the windscreen decided to develope a leak.

Think the first problem can be soloved by moving the steering wheel, second by injecting some black silicone up underneath the windscreen trim.

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1981 Carmelian Red 2 litre DHC.
Polybush, KYB shocks, electric fan, electric windows and electronic ignition roller bearing struts and anti-dive kit - otherwise standard
1979 Pageant Blue Spitfire 1500 - some restoration in progress.

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Postby Hasbeen » 31 Oct 2012 01:49

Prlee remember that trim is made of unobtainium. Glue it in, & you will probably destroy it if you have to get it out.

I'd take it out, to fix the leak. While at it, urethane, is the better choice than silicone, when shoving it in from the outside. Silicone works well when installed between 2 surfaces, then squeezed together, so forming a gasket. It will peel off sooner or later if applied from outside.

Urethane has that sh1t to a blanket ability to stick & stay.

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Postby prlee » 31 Oct 2012 18:15

Thanks Hasbeen, I have no intention of risking damage to the trim, mind you unobtainium must be very easy to get - judging by our design engineers, their second favourite material is hens teeth, you can guess the third [:D]

Take your point about silicone, we have another material at work, I'll check what it is.

At least the thermostat housing is fixed, the local garage solution was to retap and replace the bolt with a stud, sounds like a good answer as you torque up on a stronger stud rather than the soft aluminium casting.

Pete
1981 Carmelian Red 2 litre DHC.
Polybush, KYB shocks, electric fan, electric windows and electronic ignition roller bearing struts and anti-dive kit - otherwise standard
1979 Pageant Blue Spitfire 1500 - some restoration in progress.

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