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Gear lever loose

Postby mitchelltjohn » 23 Sep 2011 15:17

Gear lever on my 5sp gearbox is very loose - I can move it up adn down by by alomost 1/2 to 3/4inch (10-20mm). Changes gear Ok but something wrong. Someone said may be selector bushes are gone???
Any helpful ideas appreciated...


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Postby DNK » 23 Sep 2011 15:20

Your selector bushes are gone

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Postby Odd » 23 Sep 2011 15:41

Oh yes, your selector bushes are gone!
Fit polyurethane bushes and you'll never have to look back...

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Postby mitchelltjohn » 23 Sep 2011 16:11

is changing selector bushes easy? Do I need to drop out the gearbox or can I do in situ?
Anyone got instructions or photos?

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Postby Beans » 23 Sep 2011 17:56

Indeed sounds like the bushes have completely gone.

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Can be done in situ and from below, and change them in two stages (rear/front).
If you have an inspection pit or a lift it'll take you less than an hour.

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Postby jclay (RIP 2018) » 23 Sep 2011 18:00

It is unanimous! Your shifter housing bushings are gone!

Yes, it can be done with the trans in the car.

Remove the shift lever knob.
Remove the console.
Remove the 4 sheet metal screws holding the rubber cover over the lever and lift off.
Remove the cover over the shifter ball with a 10mm wrench.
Use a screw driver to push the spring fingers off the shift ball pins and under the heads of the two bolts.
Wrap a shop towel around the shift ball to catch the anti rattle pin and spring.
Pull the lever straight up and retrieve the pin and spring.
Pull the carpet back around the hole and remove the sheet metal cover over the transmission held there with sheet metal screws.
With an extension, you should be able to reach the two front bolts.
You can reach the side bolts from under the car.

Mounted on transmission:

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Shifter housing (Up side down):

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Postby prlee » 23 Sep 2011 19:28

Very timely as this is my job for tomorrow.

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Postby darrellw » 23 Sep 2011 20:25

I was able to change mine all from the top, though I used some long needle-nosed pliers to help, and dropped them more than a few times (where they usually land in the tranny mount).

One tip on the rears is to install one side without the metal sleeve in place, then tighten that side to compress the bushings and open up a wider gap on the other side. Once you get that side in, take the other bolt out and put the sleeve back in.

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Postby Hasbeen » 24 Sep 2011 00:43

I have done 3 of them, & found it easier all from the bottom.

I guess it depends weather you are an upper or lower class person. [:D]

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Postby FI Spyder » 24 Sep 2011 01:09

I did mine from below (I guess I'm just lower class). Usually something else you can do under there while it's up on jackstands. Even if it just contemplating the universe.[8D]



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Postby DNK » 24 Sep 2011 03:06

Nice place for a nap too

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Postby Spectatohead » 24 Sep 2011 05:45

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by DNK</i>

Nice place for a nap too

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I needed a nap while doing mine. The exhaust pipes on both sides of the transmission made the top ones a bit difficult, but not impossible. I'll take a nap whenever I can [:D]

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Postby busheytrader » 24 Sep 2011 23:17

Replaced my bushings from underneath as well. There's not much room so fingers and knuckles will get scuffed.

Lowering the rear gearbox mount a bit helps using a trolley jack underneath the gearbox. Don't remove all the bushes simultaneously otherwise you'll disconnect the remote housing entirely causing you extra problems. Loosen all the bolts then slide out one at a time replace the bushes, then move on to the next one.

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Postby prlee » 25 Sep 2011 17:04

Did mine on Saturday, thanks for the tips.

Did the front first but did not fully tighten, then the rear, then tightened everything up. Done from below using a pit it was relatively straight forward, less than an hour. The rear bushes had all but disintegrated, the front were there but on the way out. The gear stick was raised about 1/2 inch.

Cannot say the difference in feel was big as the change was decent anyway, but a job that was overdue and it does feel tighter. Biggest change to the gear shift was replacing the gearbox mount.

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Postby mitchelltjohn » 25 Sep 2011 21:50

Many thanks for all teh helpful responses. I'l order the parts and let you know how I get on...

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