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Just fitted roller bearings to the front struts

Postby paulheritage » 23 Aug 2011 21:27

This has to be one of the best improvements anyone can make to a TR7. if anyone is thinking of getting power steering, try spending £30 on the front strut top roller bearings first.

Took me about 30-40 minutes each side (after buying new spring compressors because couldn't find my old ones!) to complete. Well worth it.

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Postby john 215 » 24 Aug 2011 06:06

Hi Paul,

I have a set fitted to the DHC and to me give excellent results. Have a set for the FHC that will go on during the winter. As you, personaly rec this mod and as you say easy to do, dont try without clamps though [xx(]

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Postby Hasbeen » 24 Aug 2011 07:09

Hi Paul & John, I replaced the strut bearings in my Oz Ford Capri 2+2 convertible, [Mercury Capri in the US] recently, & did not have to remove the struts.

With the struts dropped as far as the suspension would droop, I could get the spring clamps in & remove the top & bearing without having to remove the strut from the lower control arm. Very quick & easy.

Can it be done this way on the 7/8, or must the strut come out to get the bearing fitted?

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Postby willywonka » 24 Aug 2011 09:00

Paul.

What are the details of the bearings you used?

All the Gear, no idea

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Postby manny » 24 Aug 2011 11:50

been thinking of doing this alteration , is there any noticeable ride height changes that need to be compensated for at the rear, also are these item fit and forget-in terms of lubrication?

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Postby busheytrader » 24 Aug 2011 13:25

Yes, proper bearings on the struts make the steering smoother and lighter especially for town driving.

They're not a substitute for power steering at parking speeds though, especially with wider tyres.

I fitted mine when my last front shox wore out so took the opportunity to fit the bearings whilst everything else was off the car. I can't see how they can be changed without removing the struts completely from the car since IIRC you have to remove the springs with compressors etc.

I don't think the ride height changed much. My lowered springs after 20 something years have lowered themselves a bit more so an extra 1/8th on the ride height doesn't matter if it happened. When I was looking there were 2 kits available. One used Ford Sierra bearings, the other a type of needle roller bearing. I believe the latter was thinner if you're really worried about adding ride height. The usual suspects such as Robsport and S&S sell the kits so you get fitting instructions and help if needed.

Definitely worth it though[:)]

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Postby john 215 » 24 Aug 2011 20:55

Hi

I theroy the Ford bearings poss will raise the suspension hight but only slightly. I personally run needle roller set up, greased them when fitted and 3 years later still smooth as you like.

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Postby FI Spyder » 25 Aug 2011 01:47

I've had my needle bearings in for 4 years. I took the struts apart last July to Loctite the shock retaining nuts as one had worked loose. They were still greased like the day I put them in but I did clean the wheel bearing grease off and regreased them with a clear synthetic grease that is lighter. They seem easier with lighter grease. They're particularly good with the small 13" TR8 wheel found on the Spider (and 30th Anniversary Edition). Still requires a little armstrong steering pulling into and backing out of a parking spot. Power steering TR8's are for women, TR7's are for men.[8D]




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Postby Hasbeen » 25 Aug 2011 02:18

I agree Spyder.

Why would you want to waste your time at a boring gym, when you can get just as good a workout, going for a drive in your manual steering 7, & have much more fun as well?

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Postby paulheritage » 25 Aug 2011 21:35

The ones I used are ones I bought a while ago and never got around to fitting. Ride height will be altered by about 6/7 mm I would guess.

They are similar to these, with a washer:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/triumph-tr7-roller-bearing-top-mounts-/190568465600?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2c5ec404c0#ht_500wt_922

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Postby john 215 » 26 Aug 2011 05:59

Hi,

They are the Ford based type, a lot cheaper if brought direct from Ford apparently

This is the type i fitted,


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Postby HowardB » 26 Aug 2011 11:24

Have them fitted to my 7, but never really noticed the difference. IMHO if you are doing anything else with the suspension fit them, but otherwise leave well alone..

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Postby silverseven » 27 Aug 2011 03:20

the only reason I bought and installed a set on mine is because Woody convinced me it was the thing to do, since I was rebuilding my frt suspension completely. Honestly I never had a problem with turning my car a low speed before and realy,realy,realy don't see any marked improvement at all with the roller bearings installed either.

If anything my car has become twitchier now at higher speeds........is it because of the rollerbearings, or now that the car is lowered maybe some adjustable strut mounts to bring the wheels back to proper spec??????

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Postby TR7Aaron » 27 Aug 2011 19:12

I have to agree with the last two guys - I did the conversion and didn't notice much, if anything, of a difference. The steering was maybe a little bit smoother but still takes significant effort at low speeds. One of my projects in the future is to redo the front end on my 7 and maybe that will make low speed steering easier.

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Postby John Clancy » 28 Aug 2011 07:27

I have needle roller bearings on mine but I can't say as they have made any difference. The steering on my car is very light as it should be. However, I drove the Coca Cola car a few months ago as Chris wanted me to check out the light steering on that one and I can report the steering on that is even lighter than mine. Chris had the rack rebuilt by someone who knew what he was doing which suggests it is the poor quality reconditioning of old steering racks that is causing people to think they need power steering.

The TR7 was renowned for having very light and precise steering so if your car does not have this then there is something wrong and given the evidence of the Coca Cola car it is quite possibly the rack.

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