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Postby bahbzilla » 03 Aug 2010 12:47

I don't recall where, but I found some instructions that said to boil the poly bush in water, and then push one side in to deform it into kind of a "C" shape before putting it in. I expected a struggle, but it just popped right in using this method.

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Postby bmcecosse » 03 Aug 2010 14:51

Thanks all - that doesn't sound too bad then - my worry was if I needed to disconnect all sorts of wiring and ended up with mayhem. Glad to hear that's not necessary.

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Postby FI Spyder » 03 Aug 2010 16:33

It's a bit of a bugger but I probably didn't boil it in water long enough to soften it. Mine was completely missing (like many other rubber parts) and as you turned the wheel to turn a corner it would flop around in the bulkhead (it's actually a bush.) A cut (mentioned) allows you start it screwing in (from engine side). I don't know, looking at it now, if the cut was made on the large (thinner) edge would have made it easier (allowing it to be put in from interior).

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Postby bahbzilla » 03 Aug 2010 18:57

Does the color of the poly mean anything? Mine is yellow, and I was wondering if color might be an indication of hardness or something like that. If that were the case and yellow were a softer compound, that might explain why boiling worked for me...

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Postby REPLIC8 » 03 Aug 2010 20:18

I boiled mine for 15 minutes and it was no softer at all. Finally I resorted to warming it up with an electric paint stripper. Took about a minute to go nice & soft and pushed straight in. [:)]

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Postby Hasbeen » 05 Aug 2010 04:14

Bmcecoss, I did not mention, we had the ignition on, [battery
disconnected] when we were doing the job, so we could rotate the
column.

If the ignition was not on, the steering lock would probably stop
the column coming up, & may be damaged if you tried to move it up.

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Postby fastman » 05 Aug 2010 13:52

Just did mine about a month ago. It was the poly type that Fi spyder shows. I boiled it for about 5 min and used the screwdriver method. I did back the shaft clear out via ujs and the interior clamp to gain access. I then prised the bush in from the engine bay. Big improvement.

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Postby Sondar » 25 Jun 2011 09:08

OK, so my steering column bush finally gave up the ghost a couple of weeks ago. I have a nice new shiny poly bush ready to go in, but for the life of me I can't see how to get it in place; spent 40 minutes this afternoon contorted into various positions in the driver side footwell with absolutly no success...

Anyone got any tips on how to do this?

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Postby saabfast » 25 Jun 2011 09:29

I used the 'brute force and ignorance' method working upside down in the footwell as the manual said it should go in from that side. After an hour of well chosen expletives it went in using a small screwdriver to force it through the hole, working around the bush. I did not find soaking in hot water too helpful as it was cold by the time I had started forcing it. I believe it can actually be put in from either side (might be easier from the engine side) and others here have put a radial cut across it so that it is easier to feed in from one end. I assume this does not really matter as the centre hole is filled by the shaft anyway, holding the bush in the hole.

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Postby Beans » 25 Jun 2011 11:13

Did you remove the steering column? With that out of the way you just press it in.
Sometimes it needs a little persuasion with a large blunt screw driver.


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Postby jclay (RIP 2018) » 25 Jun 2011 12:13

Replacing the Lower Steering Bushing.
There is a common problem with ALL TR7/8s with the lower steering bushing at the
firewall disintegrating and falling out. To diagnose this problem, grab your steering
wheel with both hands and trying tipping it up and down. If there is movement with a
loud chunking noise, then your bushing has gone south for the winter.
It is a straightforward replacement; it's just a pain in the bottom to do. You will only want
to replace it once per car you ever own.
• Acquire a steering bush replacement.
• On the lower steering column under the dash is a clamp. One side has two bolts. They
will not do you any good, so leave them alone. The other side has a locking nut and a
setscrew and this is the side you will work with. Back off the locking nut and then loosen
the setscrew without removing it.
• Turn the steering wheel so you have access to the upper bolt on the universal joint on
the steering shaft right up against the firewall in the engine compartment. NOTE: You
will have to align this shaft and hole exactly when reassembling the joint, as the bolt will
only go in, in one position.
• Loosen the nut and remove the bolt. Spray penetration oil on the shaft and the
universal joint at the firewall.
• Crawl back in under the steering wheel and work the bottom part of the steering shaft
between the clamp and the foot-well to move it up into the upper part of the steering
shaft.
• When the shaft is free and pulled up into the foot-well, move it to one side allowing you
to see the hole in the foot-well.
• Crawl back out of the foot-well and then crawl under the car and retrieve the big flat
washer that fell on the ground.
• Place the new bushing in a pot of boiling water for a few minutes to soften the material.
• Pull out the bushing and push it home from under the hole at the firewall.
• When pushing it in fails, (it always does!) trying cutting the bushing from the outside to
the inside hole. Now you can twist the bushing into a screw type coil and work it into the
hole that way.
• Apply grease to the inside of the hole and align the shaft on the inside of the foot well
with the bushing and press it through.
• Now have someone with small hands hold the washer as you push the shaft a little
farther through the hole.
• Have them align the universal joint with the shaft and push the shaft home.
• Replace the bolt and nut in the universal joint and tighten. (When the bolt will not go in,
pull the shaft back and realign it with the universal joint in the proper position!)
• Set the locking screw and tighten the locking washer.
Allow a day to complete this task. Have plenty of cold refreshments on hand for use
after you have completed the above task and never volunteer to do it on
someone else's TR7/8! Somethings are best learned on your own!

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Postby Jolyon39 » 25 Jun 2011 12:29

Hi Sondar

I have done two of these now and they are quite easy.

Once the steering shaft is removed I just boil the bush and push what I can into the hole using my fingers. For the rest of the bush I grab a hammer with a wooden handle, a ball pien is the one I have, and then whilst holding the metal head of the hammer I place the heel of the handle on the protruding piece of bush and push..... bang, in it goes.

Honestly, I found this easy and very quick. Dismantling and reinstalling the steering is more complex and takes up all the time.

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Postby REPLIC8 » 25 Jun 2011 13:15

I gently warmed mine up with a hot air gun, then it pushed in with no problem.

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Postby windy one » 25 Jun 2011 16:14

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Jolyon39</i>

Hi Sondar


Once the steering shaft is removed I just boil the bush and push what I can into the hole using my fingers. For the rest of the bush I grab a hammer with a wooden handle, a ball pien is the one I have, and then whilst holding the metal head of the hammer I place the heel of the handle on the protruding piece of bush and push..... bang, in it goes.

Honestly, I found this easy and very quick. Dismantling and reinstalling the steering is more complex and takes up all the time.
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Ha! This is exactly what i wuz just about to post! On my third replacement, works every time. [:)]

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Postby Sondar » 25 Jun 2011 23:26

Thanks for the replies everyone, especially jclay for the comprehensive information!

I must say that there is NO way that you could push this bush in with your fingers - it's simply not going to happen (maybe because it's poly & therefore pretty damn hard)! For my first attempt, I had already heated the bush in boiling water - which was no help whatsoever...

I may go with the radial cut option - that was my last resort thought, but it's good to see that others have used it & I'm not likely to screw things up by doing it.

Thanks again.

Sondar

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