took the car out the garage

stevie_a · Postby **stevie_a** » 28 Mar 2011 17:36

I managed to get the car out the garage yesterday, took the cover off

disconnected the battery conditioner, pulled the choke and turned the key, and the car fired into life it was great

took it out the garage and checked it over, isn't it amazing the amount of faults a car can get by sitting up for six months.

No indicators, no temp gauge, no horn.

Found broken fuse (horn fixed)

found broken wire after stripping the dash down ( temp gauge fixed)

still to do indicators

I tested the cables at the flasher unit,is it right that one of the cables is a permanent live with the ignition switch on ???

it does not seem right I would have thought it would only be live when you flick the indicator on 

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PeterTR7V8 · Postby **PeterTR7V8** » 28 Mar 2011 19:54

It seems about the same number of faults the car accumulates when being used!

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staningrimsby · Postby **staningrimsby** » 28 Mar 2011 21:26

Mines got a new engine and stood for 6 months, god knows how many faults i will have.[:(]

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Henk · Postby **Henk** » 28 Mar 2011 21:57

It's right Stevie, just controlled on the car the green/gray wire is permanent live with the ignition on.

Henk

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stevie_a · Postby **stevie_a** » 09 Apr 2011 07:16

I have got the full dash now stripped working on various things,including

the indicators, I have still to find the fault, on testing I noticed the

hazard light switch was not working properly when I switched it on

it flash very slow then stopped and wouldn't come back on, would this affect the standard indicators?

Can you get a new hazard switch or are they all used?

and finally where is the hazard flasher unit?

So many questions [:)]

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staningrimsby · Postby **staningrimsby** » 09 Apr 2011 07:31

Is the flasher unit the same for the indicators and the hazards Stevie [?], i know there is a seperate relay for the hazards.

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Laird Scooby · Postby **Laird Scooby** » 09 Apr 2011 07:35

A faulty hazard switch will cause problems with the indicators. Often the same flasher relay is used for both indicators and hazards but at one time it was common practice to fit 2 separate relays. You could try some switch cleaner in it - give it a good squirt inside the switch and operate on/off several times quickly. Here's a link to some contact/switch cleaner, sometimes referred to simply by it's brand name :

http://www.maplin.co.uk/contact-cleaner-4153

Hopefully that should help, failing that there are a number of companies around that can supply new switches, depending what sort of switch you need. Or want!

http://www.simtekuk.co.uk/www.simtekuk. ... p=11&pno=0

http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/category/34

https://www.europaspares.com/product/75 ... TCHES.html

The last link is to a specific range of switches that i believe are the same style used in the later TR7s and several other BL offerings from the same era.

Try the switch cleaner/contact cleaner/Servisol first though as i reckon you're in with a good chance!

Cheers,
Dave

stevie_a · Postby **stevie_a** » 09 Apr 2011 08:04

Thanks for the reply Dave

the TR7 has separate hazard flasher unit I know this

the link to the switches gives me hope but they look slightly different from the stock unit unforchantly

I have electrical cleaner and have tried this already even stripped the switch down

with no luck, this is why I was looking for a new old stock unit

In my car I would want the same style of switch as standard 

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stevie_a · Postby **stevie_a** » 09 Apr 2011 11:21

Just spoke to Rob at Robsport

said no new switches are available

I will try swapping the lights back to standard bulbs until the fault is fixed

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RadioGuy · Postby **RadioGuy** » 09 Apr 2011 12:16

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I have got the full dash now stripped<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Your suppose to do that in the winter and drive the "P" out of them in the spring/summer and fall.... [:)]

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stevie_a · Postby **stevie_a** » 09 Apr 2011 14:29

I do not touch my car in the winter

Anyway I have just stripped the switch back down and used

electrical cleaner and glass paper on it

so now the hazards flash but only about 3 times then blows the fuse

any ideas

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Laird Scooby · Postby **Laird Scooby** » 09 Apr 2011 15:05

Try a new flasher relay or you mention having different bulbs - what sort of different?

Re the switches, i'm not sure on this but i think the later TR7s had the rocker switches that i linked to on the Europaspares site. They are identical to the ones used in Minis and some other BL models from about 1979/80 onwards so hoped they would be right for you. That said, i just spotted the front of your car in your signature (it does a slide show - nice one!) and realised you have an early one. I could be wrong on this but i think that Princess models of a similar age used the same switches as the TR7.

Is this anything like it?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Austin-Rover-Triu ... 43a1c8569d

Or maybe one from this lot :

http://motors-parts.shop.ebay.co.uk/Veh ... .m14.l1514

Had a look on Rimmers site too, most of the original switches seem to be obsolete. Methinks when i get my Wedge, as the switches fail, i'll find a suitable range of switches that are available and fit them instead. Might not be as original, but at least they'll work and look the same!

Hope you can get yours sorted, migth be worth giving the hazard switch another clean - strange i know but sometimes it works after the 2nd or 3rd clean.

Cheers,
Dave

John Clancy · Postby **John Clancy** » 09 Apr 2011 16:04

Steve, in my experience if I have a problem with the indicators it is generally caused by the hazard switch. Mine is an earlier car of course so it may have changed for later ones.

All of a sudden we seem to be having parts and panels becoming obsolete. Tis a tad worrying.

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Beans · Postby **Beans** » 09 Apr 2011 16:59

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Laird Scooby

... migth be worth giving the hazard switch another clean ... <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Sometimes that indeed solves the problem [:D]

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FI Spyder · Postby **FI Spyder** » 09 Apr 2011 19:33

Sand paper (insert your local term here) always seemed a tad radical to me. I cleaned my switches up with metal polish (Wicked in my case) that takes it to a like new condition with out excessive wear. Then I coat with a thin layer of dielectric grease to prevent oxidation. They got back together several ways so take pictures as it's disassembled. (Main switch particularly puzzling and took me some time with the wiring diagram figuring out which is N/O and which is N/C in the three different positions. Hazard switch not as confusing). Of course you have to make sure all the bulb bases and their holders are corrosion free as well as they are all part of the circuit. Then if you're still blowing fuses (or before) makes sure your bulbs are original value and try it. (newer bulbs are usually twice the wattage of the ones meant for it although I have replaced a few with no problem).

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