Page 1 of 1

Odd Fuel Gauge

Posted: 21 Mar 2008 16:12
by saabfast
I know they tend to be on the 7 but, having finally fitted a working gauge last summer, I now find on starting after the winter layup that it registers but also very slowly cycles up and down continuously about 1/8 to 1/4 of a tank about the 1/4 full point (which I assume is the current tank contents).
Over the winter I have had the dash out to fit LED backlight bulbs and cleaned all the contacts. I have also fitted a 'new' alternator which gives a much better charge (just in case any of this is relevant). Can it be the voltage regulator (is this the small 'block' bracketed to the instrument perspex cover screw?), or are there any other ideas?

Alan
Saab 9000 Stg 1
'81 TR7 DHC
Image

Posted: 21 Mar 2008 17:02
by Henk
The block which you at referred is the relais for low fuel warning.
Never heared of a voltage regulator on a tr7.

Henk
Image
1980 TR7 US Convertible
1978 Mini Clubman Estate

Posted: 21 Mar 2008 18:37
by Odd
Alan,
the little block is a time delay unit for the low level warning light. It comprises an electrically heated contact point that starts to heat up and bend when the contacts in the tank sender unit are closed - but if this is just a short slosh the amount of heat isn't enough to close the lights contacts, for this a low level of longer duraton, typically several seconds, is needed. Saves us a blinking low level warning light...

PS
It's not an Odd gauge - possibly it's an odd gauge... [;)]

/Odd


Image

Posted: 21 Mar 2008 18:49
by saabfast
OK, apologies Odd, should have said 'Eratic fuel gauge'!
Its good to know what the 'block' is, I thought instrument clusters normally had a voltage regulator/stabiliser to allow for the variable charge/system voltage?
However, any ideas why the gauge should slowly go up and down continually?

Alan
Saab 9000 Stg 1
'81 TR7 DHC
Image

Posted: 22 Mar 2008 09:57
by John Clancy
My own gauge varies dependent on going uphill or downhill. Also when cornering the gauge can flutter a bit. It's all down to the ballcock in the tank floating around and can give the guage at least 1/8th of a tank difference in the reading.

<center><b>[url="http://www.triumphtr7.com/documents/sales/codenamebullet.asp"]Buy the story of the Triumph TR7/8 on DVD here[/url]</b></center>

Posted: 22 Mar 2008 11:23
by Odd
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> I thought instrument clusters normally had a voltage regulator/stabiliser to allow for the variable charge/system voltage? <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"> Maybe so, but in the Wedge they used instruments with self stabilising coils that don't need a voltage
stabiliser. It's as accurate (or inaccurate!) at 14 volts as it is at 9.5 volts by virtue of the air core coils in
the instrument... Quite clever design actually...


Image

Posted: 22 Mar 2008 12:34
by john 215
Hi,
Worth checking the connection at the tank unit, these have a habit of corroding. Also make sure that you did'nt accidently damage the printed cicuit or leave the connection loose on the back of gauge.
Cheers John

LIVE LIFE A QUARTER OF A MILE AT A TIME!
1979 3.5 FHC(STATUS PENDING!!)
Image
1982 2.0 DHC NOW A 4.6 WILL BE ON THE ROAD VERY SOON!
Read My Blog http://www.waringstowntr7s.co.uk/blogs/ ... hp/John215

Posted: 22 Mar 2008 21:37
by saabfast
A little more peculiar today. I was running the engine to warm it for an oil change and watching the temp gauge. When I revved it the temp gauge suddenly dropped, with the fuel gauge following suit. When the throttle was released both went back to reading. I 'exercised' the spade connection on the temp sender and it all went back to normal, including the fuel gauge!
Don't you just love the challenges of Lucas/BL electrics (also had to sort the hazards on my sons Mini today).
I will check the sender connection on the tank tomorrow.

Alan
Saab 9000 Stg 1
'81 TR7 DHC
Image

Posted: 22 Mar 2008 23:34
by Rich in Vancouver
Bad Ground on the panel maybe?

Rich

1975 TR7 ACL764U
Image

Posted: 23 Mar 2008 02:19
by FI Spyder
Oxydation + dried grease + dirt + air polution + acid rain + electrolysis + water + salt + 30 or so years = lots of interesting problems. Clean them all.

TR7 Spider - 1978 Spifire - 1976 Spitfire - 1988 Tercel 4X4 - Kali on Integra - 1991 Integra
Image

Posted: 23 Mar 2008 10:03
by Odd
I'd recommend a separate (heavy gauge, say 2.5 sq mm) wire connecing the essential earth points
on the rear of the cluster together - and then going to a good earthing point on the body.
Should relieve you of most earthing related problems at the instrument cluster.

Image

Posted: 23 Mar 2008 14:45
by saabfast
I was thinking the same Odd, just after I screwed it all back together. Too cold to go back today so will see how it performs when I put it back on the road next month.

Alan
Saab 9000 Stg 1
'81 TR7 DHC
Image