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Carb percoluation

Posted: 27 Jul 2017 23:39
by mmi16
I have a 79 TR7 Convertible.

It has the stock Stromberg dashpot carbs. I am having trouble with smelling gas after I stop the car. After driving to a store or something similar and letting the car sit for 10-15 minutes while I shop, it is hard to start and acts like it has flooded to some degree.

Any ideas?

Re: Carb percoluation

Posted: 28 Jul 2017 01:56
by Hasbeen
Your carbs are flooding, probably only the front one. It could be that some modification to the fuel pump, or it's instillation has caused it to pump at too high a pressure. Both the Stromberg & SU carbs fitted to 7s are designed to have no more than 2 PSI supplied.

However they can flood when the pressure is correct. When you shut off the motor the fuel pump still holds a residual pressure in the fuel line, & maintains this pressure to some extent depending on where the engine stops.

Our fuel pumps actually pump by the internal spring. The spring is compressed by the leaver running on the jack shaft cam. If the engine stops with this spring fully compressed the pump has the capacity to pump a fair bit of fuel.

If the needle & seat [valve] in the carb float bowl is a bit worn they will not seal completely, & will weep a little. With the engine running this does not matter, as the engine will be using fuel at a greater rate than this weep. However when you stop, the weeping of the residual pressure can raise the float level to rise enough to overflow the main jet in the carb throat.

Depending on how the car is sitting, this fuel may pool in the carb throat, or the manifold, run into the cylinder head , or soak the air filter. It usually means that on trying to start, before it has evaporated, raw fuel will be drawn into the thing, wetting out the plugs, causing hard starting.

To check this is the problem, after stopping the engine, immediately remove a hose from one carb. A squirt of fuel will occur. Now do the same about 10 minutes after stopping the engine. If no squirt of fuel, it has wept into your carbs.

Correcting the fuel pressure if it is above 2 PSI, or replacing the needle & seats in the carb, or both should fix your problem.

Hasbeen

Re: Carb percoluation

Posted: 28 Jul 2017 07:22
by littlepippin
Woah - nice answer Hasbeen......!!!

There is an absolute goldmine of info in our members heads, so nice to have help when you need it.

Re: Carb percoluation

Posted: 28 Jul 2017 19:30
by mmi16
Fuel Pump and Carbs are both in stock condition. I am the only owner of the car.

Re: Carb percoluation

Posted: 31 Jul 2017 09:21
by Hasbeen
Then replace your needles & seats in the float bowls, & clean out the bowls.

Hasbeen