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wiper delay

Posted: 23 Jan 2015 08:57
by sonscar
I have seen for sale at many autojumbles Lucas wiper delay units for TR7. My car is 1980? DHC and does not have this. Do these units plug into the exisitng wiring or is the loom/wiring/stalk different for cars fitted with this.

Thanks Steve.

P.S used search and it seems there are many pitfalls with the correct unit and wiring. First hand experience would be nice.

Thanks again,
Steve..

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Posted: 23 Jan 2015 16:00
by Beans
They plug directly into the wiring loom.


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1980 TR7 DHC (my first car, a.k.a. Kermette)
1981 TR7 FHC (Sprint engined a.k.a. 't Kreng
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Posted: 23 Jan 2015 16:42
by Odd
No they dont. The delay unit forces a reversal of the connector gender in the interface where they fit into the 1980 harness.

Posted: 23 Jan 2015 17:53
by TR Tony
Odd is right - all the units I have seen need both the loom plugs changed to the opposite gender where the loom from the wiper stalk meets the main loom under the dash. The delay unit plugs in at this connection. Apart from that it's a straight swap [:)]

Read this: http://www.team.net/TR8/tr8cca/wedgelab ... _delay.htm

Oh, the delay unit was mounted on some kind of bracket under the dash when factory installed, don't suppose it would be too hard to sort that out though.

Tony
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1980 TR7V8 DHC Jaguar Regency Red - sadly sold!
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Posted: 23 Jan 2015 19:59
by sonscar
Next time I see one I will risk the £10 they usually are(were?).Thanks Steve..

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Posted: 23 Jan 2015 21:46
by Beans
I am not going to argue here, but ...
I have broken several late (LHD Euro spec 7's) they where all a straight swap.
Did have the problems you mention with a late US spec car [:p]

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<font color="blue"><i>1976 TR7 FHC (currently being restored ...)
1980 TR7 DHC (my first car, a.k.a. Kermette)
1981 TR7 FHC (Sprint engined a.k.a. 't Kreng
</font id="blue"><b>[url="http://www.tr7beans.blogspot.com/"]<u><b><font size="2"><font color="red">Click this link for a full version of my blog</font id="red"></font id="size2"></b></u>[/url]</b></i></center>

Posted: 24 Jan 2015 00:58
by Cobber
In my experience, all Lucas wiper systems are intermittent....... sometimes they work and sometimes they don't! [:D]

"Keep calm, relax, focus on the problem & PULL THE BLOODY TRIGGER"

80'Triumph TR7, 73'Land Rover (Ford 351. V8),
'89 Ford Fairlane
'98 MG-F, 69'Ford F250.

Posted: 24 Jan 2015 07:57
by Beans
Spot on Cobber [:D]

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<font color="blue"><i>1976 TR7 FHC (currently being restored ...)
1980 TR7 DHC (my first car, a.k.a. Kermette)
1981 TR7 FHC (Sprint engined a.k.a. 't Kreng
</font id="blue"><b>[url="http://www.tr7beans.blogspot.com/"]<u><b><font size="2"><font color="red">Click this link for a full version of my blog</font id="red"></font id="size2"></b></u>[/url]</b></i></center>

Posted: 24 Jan 2015 10:35
by Odd
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Beans</i>

I am not going to argue here, but ...
I have broken several late (LHD Euro spec 7's) they where all a straight swap.
Did have the problems you mention with a late US spec car [:p] <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"> No, it's a model year thing I think - when Leyland started to use this gizmo themselves they did
the needed alteration in the harness at the (harness?) factory. So '81 and '82 [yes, I know] model
year Wedges have the reversed gender connectors in place. And in the markets who didn't get
the delay gizmo - it's a straight-in fitment if you want one. All the earler models need to be 'adjusted'...

Posted: 24 Jan 2015 10:53
by Maxwell
The Harnesses were made elsewhere....

Maxwell [;)]

2.0 TR7 FHC \ Current
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Posted: 24 Jan 2015 17:47
by jeffremj
It is <u>not</u> a straight swap into a 1980 Canley built UK FHC.

Posted: 24 Jan 2015 22:14
by Beans
As I said I am not going to argue, cherio [}:)]

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<font color="blue"><i>1976 TR7 FHC (currently being restored ...)
1980 TR7 DHC (my first car, a.k.a. Kermette)
1981 TR7 FHC (Sprint engined a.k.a. 't Kreng
</font id="blue"><b>[url="http://www.tr7beans.blogspot.com/"]<u><b><font size="2"><font color="red">Click this link for a full version of my blog</font id="red"></font id="size2"></b></u>[/url]</b></i></center>

Posted: 24 Jan 2015 22:49
by jeffremj
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Beans</i>
As I said I am not going to argue, cherio [}:)]<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">You flatter yourself. My info is perfectly valid for the car I mentioned, as is your info for yours. Although mine is more relevant to the originator of the topic [;)].

Posted: 25 Jan 2015 00:22
by bottomtop
Sorry to be an anorak but the delay unit (Lucas 6da) was made with two different type of connectors. One version has the connectors that we are familiar with (though may need the gender reversed depending on the year of car) and the other has a slightly different plug fitting, which looks a lot like ours, but is different. One could probably figure out the pin outs to connect it if desired and knowledgeable in such matters. The actual plug/socket though is extinct. The ones with the extinct connections are the ones that I have seen robsport selling on line for time to time.