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LPG - Getting old!

Posted: 23 Mar 2014 10:49
by jclay (RIP 2018)
OK, I am getting old and things are starting to go away.

I remember that there is a member here that has a blue TR7 that was converted to LPG. Does anyone else here actually remember his name?

Clay

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Posted: 23 Mar 2014 12:36
by letstorque
Im planning on doing mine. Ran a few cars on it previous.


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Posted: 23 Mar 2014 14:27
by john 215
Hi Jclay,

What like this -


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Rob James, posts on here from time to more often on TR Reg forum has LPG on his, this is lifted from there, I hope you don't mind Rob [:I]-

<font color="red">Overview of improvement: - Single point LPG

Relative merits: - Reduced emissions and reduced fuel costs

Observations: - The spare wheel well was removed and a flat floor welded in its place. An 80 litre LPG tank was suspended where the wheel well had been and the fuel line ran along the nearside to a vapourisor mounted on the nearside inner wing. A venturi system was placed just before the inlet to the EFI plenum which is where the LPG was drawn in (fueling was controlled by an ECU that monitored airflow into the plenum and the readings from the EFI Lambda sensor). The ECU itself was attached to the N/S inner wing and always looked like an after thought.

I loved the fact that my fuel bill dropped by 40% and because of the mileage I was doing, this paid for the installation in less than two years. However, there were two downsides to a single point LPG system; firstly, the venturi used to jet the fuel into the plenum considerably restricted airflow into the plenum which in turn reduced engine performance on both petrol and LPG. Secondly, as the LPG was mixed with the air in the plenum, there were occasional incidents of the LPG igniting before it entered the combustion chambers which produced lots of noise and smoke and was pretty scary!

Summary: - The backfires never caused any damage but they were clearly not safe. I pocketed the fuel savings after the second year to create a fund to upgrade to multi point LPG.

Summary scoring
Safety/security N/A
Reliability N/A
Performance N/A
Comfort/aesthetics N/A
Cost 4</font id="red">

Cheers John

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Posted: 23 Mar 2014 15:14
by Workshop Help
Okay, that's for the fuel injected V-8 folks. Now, what about the carbureted 4 cylinder crowd?

Mildred Hargis

Posted: 23 Mar 2014 15:41
by DNK
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Mildred</i>

Okay, that's for the fuel injected V-8 folks. Now, what about the carbureted 4 cylinder crowd?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Who?? [:D]

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Posted: 23 Mar 2014 15:47
by DNK
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Posted: 23 Mar 2014 19:19
by Rob James
It's the stepper motor relocated from the bulk head face of the plenum to the offside to allow the fresh air scoop to be used

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Posted: 24 Mar 2014 20:52
by kstrutt1
I have a blue tr7v8 on LPG, when it used to be a 4 cylinder it was also on LPG, both used the same mechanical system on twin su's. Is this what you are looking for?

It runs twin mixers with a 2 stage vaporizer, starts on LPG and does not backfire.

On my 1961 land rover I have what I consider to be the best system I have yet to come across, this is a Blos variable mixer which is similar in principle to a SU carb, no electronics to worry about, very little loss in power and good fuel economy.

Kevin