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A little movement in the front wheel

Posted: 10 Mar 2014 17:43
by bonnietiler
Got back from the Lake district on Sunday and could detect a little noise in the nearside front, when I got back I grabs the tyre (in the traditional manner) and gives it a pull side to side as it were....definate movement, so today I remove wheel and the hub dust cover, there is a strange lock washer that covers the nut and has metal strands that interfere with the threads "preventing" its accidentally undoing itself...Is this the STD method, I'm traditionally used to a castellated nut and a split pin? anyway the hub nut is barely tight by any defination but over tightening prevents the front wheel from any movement at all, I tightened it a little replaced the H Robinson lock washer and all seems better...Is there a prefered method or is summut up as we say in the North...am I better replacing something complicated and no doubt expensive?
Regards
Bonnietiler

Posted: 10 Mar 2014 18:19
by saabfast
The pressed steel 'lock washer' is standard, just fits over the nut and the split pin goes through the frilly bit. I think there is a torque for the wheel bearing nut (can't remember, 5 lbft?), but it is too light for my torque wrench. I use a normal socket wrench with one finger weight on the end to tighten the nut, then back it off a little and use the extension and socket without the wrench to hand tighten the nut, then replace the lock washer and pin etc. I find this normally tightens it enough to avoid too much play over without over tightening.

Alan
Saab 9000 Stg 1 (now passed to son for his family car)
Saab 9000 2.3 FPT Auto (now gone that others might live)
Saab 9000 2.3 LPT Auto
Saab 9-5 2.3 Vector Auto Estate
'81 TR7 DHC
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Posted: 10 Mar 2014 18:35
by bonnietiler
Thanks very much I basically just tightened it (too much) and undid it very slowly until I seemed to have the correct torque.
Tell me though are the front hub bearings an easy job?
Regards
Bonnietiler

Posted: 10 Mar 2014 19:03
by Beans
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by bonnietiler</i>

... Tell me though are the front hub bearings an easy job?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
It can be done by the side of the road in well under an hour [:p]

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Posted: 10 Mar 2014 21:52
by Hasbeen
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Beans</i>

[quote]<i>Originally posted by bonnietiler</i>

... Tell me though are the front hub bearings an easy job?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
It can be done by the side of the road in well under an hour [:p]

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1980 TR7 DHC (my first car, a.k.a. Kermette)
1981 TR7 FHC (Sprint engined a.k.a. 't Kreng
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Experience speaking?

Hasbeen

Posted: 18 Mar 2014 13:14
by andyf
Yeah they are easy, I did the fronts a few years ago, even following the Haynes manual they were easy.

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Posted: 18 Mar 2014 16:01
by FI Spyder
Never seen the thing I think you are describing. Just the castellated nut. I greased my bearings last year and later there was a slight shimmy and when driving on pasture at car shows it seemed there was a loose something in front end. I put the car up on jack stands yesterday and there is play in the bearings, same both wheels. Will have to snug them up. I don't use torques wrench (I may have last time), you need an inch/lb. one 5x12= 60 inch/lbs. After wheel rotation and what ever I can think of I'll give it a test drive.


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Posted: 18 Mar 2014 16:30
by Beans
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by saabfast</i>

The pressed steel 'lock washer' is standard, just fits over the nut and the split pin goes through the frilly bit. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Looks like this ...

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1980 TR7 DHC (my first car, a.k.a. Kermette)
1981 TR7 FHC (Sprint engined a.k.a. 't Kreng
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Posted: 18 Mar 2014 16:32
by Beans
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Hasbeen</i>

... Experience speaking? ... <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Yes, but not on one of my own cars [:p]

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<font color="blue"><i>1976 TR7 FHC (needs some TLC ...)
1980 TR7 DHC (my first car, a.k.a. Kermette)
1981 TR7 FHC (Sprint engined a.k.a. 't Kreng
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