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worth repairing?

Posted: 03 Jun 2013 16:15
by sonscar
New member and first post so be kind please.I have "inherited" my sons 1980/81? drophead tr7 after he has worn it out.He had it 3 years and I maintained it in as much as I got it mobile again when it broke,which was surprisingly rare(camchain jumping sprockets and 8 new valves being most serious).As an old car enthusiast I am reluctant to scrap it but after a fairly thorough inspection and some internet searching it would appear that the cost of repair panels is so vast that they alone are more expensive than what most tr7's are not selling for.I have spent some time thinking and am going to replace one of the sills first and then see if it is worth continuing,and try to buy no other parts unless there is no other way.Wish me luck.Steve...

Posted: 03 Jun 2013 17:56
by saabfast
Welcome to the forum Steve, you will get plenty of encouragement and advice here.
BUT...restoring almost any old car costs far more than it will be worth when done (with the possible exception of an original E type). It can only be done for the experience, interest and sense of achievement (after much frustration).
If you look up jclay's posts there is a link at the bottom to an original workshop manual which should help. Post any problems, people here have done virtually everything.

Alan
Saab 9000 Stg 1
Saab 9000 2.3 FPT Auto
Saab 9000 2.3 LPT Auto
'81 TR7 DHC
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Posted: 03 Jun 2013 18:49
by FI Spyder
We're all kind here.[8D] If there is much rust (as is common in ungaraged UK cars) it may cost more than a better car to start with, looking at it in a pure dollars and cents perspective. It may be a donor parts car for something better (seems many neighbourhoods are particular to having such hanging around where Mrs. Marpole of the Constantly Flowering Society can see it). If it's a special model or of sentimental value or you just enjoy working at it, then have at it. These cars are not for the collector but for the fun of the drive and having something that bring back a memory, either yours our the stranger that walks up to you to tell you his.

Every one here is willing to help or give encouragement if help is out of their purview.



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Posted: 03 Jun 2013 23:43
by Hasbeen
Hi Steve & welcome. I say go for it. The only way you get the car you really want, & know it is really good, is do it your self.

many years back I bought a long retired rally 7 & a spares car for not much by Oz standard. It was to be for my son. It was rust free, but much dented, with a gearbox & diff in fair condition, but not much else. After a year, & about $5000, [about the price for a reasonable 7 in Oz], I had a pretty good car, that served me well for 11 years, & 60,000+ kilometers.

Recently it got air conditioning fitted, a bare metal paint job, & a new engine, with most of the good bits available.

I spent $16,000 on a car that is worth about $6000, if any one wants it. However I now have a beautiful car which should serve me for many more years.

I consider my $16000 is equivalent to depreciation over those 11 years, & is less than $1500 a year. That is damn cheep motoring, & so much more fun than a shopping trolley would have been.

Hasbeen

Posted: 04 Jun 2013 00:43
by silverseven
I like your thinking Hasbeen , it's a mantra I use often with my clients, concerning car repairs. (when I think about then, my seven really hasn't cost me much at all !)

Hey Steve ,welcome to the site !
So do you have any pics of the old gal for us to look over ???

Ron.
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Posted: 04 Jun 2013 00:47
by jclay (RIP 2018)
links at the bottom

Clay

[url="http://www.jclay.me/"]My Triumph Site[/url], [url="http://www.triumphtechnical.me"]Technical Stuff[/url], [url="https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B8MWEvqOpX3udEF4SmFQUW9RS09hbU5uNW5Wd0xrUQ/edit"]My Public Folder[/url],

Posted: 04 Jun 2013 04:39
by sonscar
Thanks for the encouragement.I am no stranger to rusty cars owning an MGBGT for 27 years,Austin Healey sprite for 20 years and an MGBV8 roadster for 10 years and several classic minis one of which I traded my son for the TR7.The redeeming factor with this car is that it is essentially free to start with and is already on my driveway and also everything works,but after the mg,s and mini I guess I have been cosseted with the price availability and quality of repair panels.Still a man needs a hobby so Press ON..Steve

Posted: 04 Jun 2013 05:10
by john 215
Hi Steve,

[:D] WELCOME TO THE BEST TR7 / 8 FORUM IN THE WORLD EVER [8D]


Have a look at some of the 'Blogs' give you some insperation of what can be achieved with a car less than perfect -

http://www.forum.triumphtr7.com/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=16

Plenty of rust on 'sevens' Blog -

http://www.forum.triumphtr7.com/topic.a ... Terms=weld

Good luck and hope to see some pictures soon,

Cheers John

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Posted: 07 Jun 2013 07:08
by sonscar
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Posted: 07 Jun 2013 07:29
by sonscar
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Posted: 07 Jun 2013 14:00
by FI Spyder
Get out the angle grinder, sandblaster, pneumatic chisel, spot welder drill bit, and MIG welder. Get ready to order some panels. Let the fun begin.
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Posted: 07 Jun 2013 18:56
by tr7jim
Steve,

Paul got a shell on another thread, with V5c its a fhc but could be a good option to make one out of two?

Jim

Posted: 07 Jun 2013 19:25
by sydney.wedgehead
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Steve, that just looks tragic.

If it was me I'd look for a better shell.

Owen

Posted: 01 Jul 2013 13:54
by sonscar
Thanks for the encouragement?I have restored far worse and have moved the offending heap of rust into my garage and purchased 2 new heritage sills.Apart from the legality of using a 2nd hand shell(reregistering as Q plate VIC losing the original registration ETC)if everyone did this there would be no cars left and sooner rather than later you would have yours stolen to be broken for its parts(new shell?)Undeterred I will start work very soon and will probably post a few pictures.What size is preferred for pictures?.

Posted: 01 Jul 2013 15:03
by Hasbeen
Having just reread your original post, & realized you have already done a head job on a 7, you are almost in professional class. Just a water pump replacement to go for your ticket.

While you are mucking with body work, pay special attention to the attachment points for the trailing arms & radius rods. Both are a weak point, & if rusty become doubtful quite quickly.

Have fun.

Hasbeen