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Headlights - sorry!

Posted: 16 May 2013 18:49
by dursleyman
OK, so I have to admit feeling a little smug over the years as I have read various folks stories of problems with their headlight lift motors. Mine always worked great, but suddenly I find myself in that position and I don't like it.

Drove the "new" car out of the garage today and the headlights refused to lift, they came on but would not lift. They worked fine when I parked it a couple of months ago but not today. More annoying as it has to go for an MOT test very soon.

Did the usual checks on the earthing points in each corner of the engine bay and took the connectors apart for a clean-up. The left light now comes up OK but the right side is still no-go.

I have now put it away for the night and will go through the connections again tomorrow but would appreciate some reassurance and a check list of pointers to follow if anyone has one.

Russ

1980 TR7 Sprint DHC
Dursley
UK

http://tr7russ.blogspot.co.uk/

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Posted: 16 May 2013 19:02
by Spectatohead
Every time I have had a problem with the headlights coming up it has been the switch. Most of those times all it has required was pulling the switch out of the dash and taking it apart and cleaning the contacts. Once, years ago, the switch burned up. That time I had to get a new switch.

Jim Clark
'80 TR8
'97 Maxima 5spd
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Posted: 16 May 2013 19:23
by dursleyman
Yes I have a new switch and a spare in stock so i'll try them tomorrow, but if its the switch funny that one light now rises and one doesn't?

I also tried the "flash" and just the one rises on its own.

Russ

1980 TR7 Sprint DHC
Dursley
UK

http://tr7russ.blogspot.co.uk/

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Posted: 16 May 2013 19:46
by busheytrader
I guess it's a case of check every connection from the main headlight switch itself to the headlight motor to the earth connections.

That includes the connection blocks under the fake top speaker grille, around the glovebox and the fuses / relays. The youngest of our cars are over 30 years old and most of the copper contacts will have corroded / contaminated surfaces.

I turn on / off the headlights every time I'm in the 7 to keep the switch contacts clean



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Posted: 16 May 2013 19:47
by Beans
Check relays, and clean current switch for good measure.
They can and do corrode, especially when left idle for a while [B)]

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Posted: 16 May 2013 19:56
by prlee
I have one that sticks when left for a while. Quick twist of the knob on the bottom of the motor gets it moving again. Needs a spray of something really.

Pete
1981 Carmelian Red 2 litre DHC.
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Posted: 17 May 2013 06:46
by Neil_W
I had the same problem with a winking headlamp - check the unit in the glove box / under glove box - the pelton I think they call it - the little square bit hanging on the loom if I remember.
It was partially loose & refitted everything went back to normal if there is anything normal on a TR7.

Also made a Distributor Spanner from the dimentions when you lent me you tool - £5 all in so now have one in the tool box & ready for a profesional tune up next week.

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Posted: 17 May 2013 13:50
by dursleyman
OK, they work.

Went back today and checked all the connections and re-did the earth point and still nothing.

Then I remembered Pete's comment about tweaking the knob on the motor and as if by magic - they now work perfectly every time.

I do always give them a cycle every time I use the cars but this one has been stood for a few months and the gremlins had crept in. Maybe I'll diary it to go out and try them every week or so even when the car is laid up.

Russ

1980 TR7 Sprint DHC
Dursley
UK

http://tr7russ.blogspot.co.uk/

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Posted: 20 May 2013 21:55
by bmcecosse
I put the lamps UP and disconnect when going for the MOT - saves any embarrassments if they start winking......or refusing to come out to play. And yes - use them (and the hazard lights) every time I start the car. I find my lamps are voltage sensitive - if I want them to go down and stay down - the engine (ie the alternator) must not be running.

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Posted: 20 May 2013 22:13
by dursleyman
Excellent idea to disconnect before going for the MOT, I will do that next time.

Russ

1980 TR7 Sprint DHC
Dursley
UK

http://tr7russ.blogspot.co.uk/

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Posted: 20 May 2013 23:59
by FI Spyder
Never had any problems, don't often use them except for the Ladysmith Days parade as the little kids eyes light up when they unexpectedly see them pop up and down. Mind you I did clean all contacts before I put it on the road.




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