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My feel good/karma Triumph wedge story

Posted: 01 Apr 2013 21:59
by WhiteTR8
Hi everybody. I'd like to introduce myself. My name is Greg and I live in a tiny village (pop 1800) in rural eastern Ontario. I made my first post on the TR7 forum regarding a vintage race car that I recently purchased.

I have a TR8 story to tell that I'd like to share. I can’t say I ever believed in the concept of karma but after this experience with my TR8 my mind is changed.

It was 1987. I had just sold my 1960 Porsche 356B for a whopping $6500. A bad financial investment in retrospect but that was a typical 356 going price back then. I liked the 356B but the VW bug level performance was less than impressive. I wanted something with a bit more power since my best friend was completing the restoration of a Sunbeam Tiger and I would want to be able to keep up with him in the performance department. I had always liked the wedges since their introduction and once I found a Triumph TR8 for sale it was a no brainer – I absolutely had to purchase it. The car was being sold by a 20 yr. old kid who was selling to help finance his return to community college, no doubt a wise long term investment for him. I drove away with my new purchase, a happy TR8 owner.

After a couple of years I had the car repainted white (never liked that Aqua colour) and did some performance upgrades. I purchased a short block with higher CR pistons and a cam from Ted Schumaker of T & S Imports in Ohio and added headers and a Holley 4 bbl. The usual suspension mods with sway bars, springs, Konis and bushings were also done. The TR8 was now transferred into a real performer. I remember not ever having much problem shutting down period Mustang GT’s or Camaros at the stoplight grand prix. And one time on a long lonely rural Ontario back with no other cars around, some guy in a Ferrari 308 actually thought he was going to pass me. To make a long story short he didn’t and man, did he ever look upset. LOL!!

The mid 1990’s weren’t the best time in my life. I went through a divorce and relocated to start a new business which in a recession economy was hard to get off the ground. In a financial bind I had to sell my beloved TR8. As the new owner drove away in my TR8 I vowed that someday if I ever found her again, I’d buy my TR8 back.

Flash forward fifteen years to the summer of 2010. I’ve remarried, business is good and both my kids have just completed college. I’ve gone fifteen years without a Triumph or anything else worthwhile in my garage and have been driving mini-vans or boring domestic family sedans for this period. I decide that its now my time. On a May evening the decision is made to get another classic car. I log on to Autotrader.ca online, typing in the word “Triumphâ€￾ to begin my search. As I scrolled down past the multitude of Spitfires and TR6’s a photo of a white TR8 suddenly hit me. I thought to myself “that must be my old car, it just has to beâ€￾. My heart was jumping but tried to rationalize to myself as to the unlikely chance of finding my old car be on the first night of my search. This was just too good to be true. It just can’t be, so don’t get your hopes up I told myself, yet the more I stared at the photo, the more I was convinced an old friend was crying out for me. I immediately emailed the seller and sure enough, the next day I received his response telling me that indeed it was my old TR8 and that he was the third owner after me. This had to be Karma.

The seller lived about three hours away so I sent him an email begging not to sell my old car for a few days before the weekend when I could see it, to which he agreed. I casually told my wife I was going to “have a lookâ€￾ at an old car that I might have previously owned but said no more as I put a thousand dollar deposit in my wallet, knowing full well that when it comes to explaining certain things to women, it’s always far easier to beg forgiveness later than to ask for permission beforehand. :-)

I recognized my car the moment I saw it. The give away was the aftermarket rear spoiler that the kid had originally put on, which I admit had grown on me and had stayed on the car ever since. The seller had done a lot of work on the car which included a new paint job, new interior and engine rebuild. He was selling at a loss but when I saw his new Mercedes parked in the driveway, I understood his motivation. Ironically, the price I originally purchased the car, sold and now bought back was exactly the same. It had to be Karma. What else could it possibly be. My TR8 and I were destined to be together.

So I’ve had my TR8 back in my life for three years now and I have no intention of ever parting with it again. We were destined to be together. Karma must really exist.

Posted: 01 Apr 2013 22:26
by WhiteTR8
I guess I should post a picture. This was from last September at the Watkins Glen vintage race festival. That's my brother with the Lotus Europa twin cam and my best friend with his 1966 Porsche 911(and partner in crime with me on the TR7 vintage race car)


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Posted: 01 Apr 2013 22:50
by Spectatohead
That is a very nice story and welcome! Any question you'll ever have about your cars can be answered by the people on this forum.

Jim Clark
'80 TR8
'97 Maxima 5spd
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Posted: 01 Apr 2013 22:58
by WhiteTR8
Jim, I'll start by asking you what wheels and tires you've got on your car. I've on 6 X 13" rims with Sumitomo 205/60 tires which are no longer being produced. It seems that they're aren't a lot of tire options left in that size, so I suspect once they're worn I'll be likely looking at other wheel size options.

Posted: 01 Apr 2013 23:38
by Spectatohead
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by WhiteTR8</i>

Jim, I'll start by asking you what wheels and tires you've got on your car.
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Except that question. [;)] What I do know is that the wheels were made by a company called Epsilon. I am pretty sure they are no more. It is a 3 piece wheel and I don't know how wide they are. The rears are wider than the fronts. The tires are Toyo Proxes Z1. Also no longer in production. 205/50zr15 in the front and 225/50zr15 in the back. They are old and hard and I need to find replacements in the same sizes sometime soon. I get a bit uncomfortable driving around on 13 year old tires. They still grip better than a new long wear tire would though. My car has forest rally flares to make up for the offset of the back wheels. I always liked the way this car sat. I have known of it for over 20years. I bought it about 4 years ago. It had been sitting neglected for 8 years or so. I still have a long way to go to get it where I want it. In the meantime it looks good and runs and drives decently.

Jim Clark
'80 TR8
'97 Maxima 5spd
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Posted: 01 Apr 2013 23:54
by silverseven
cool intro story Greg , looks like a nice car [8]


I hope to one day to find my long lost 5.0 Mustang ......

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Posted: 02 Apr 2013 00:30
by Hasbeen
Hi Whitey & welcome. Your story proves the adage, "it's no good getting old if you don't get lucky". Your luck even held to the car having an owner who did a lot of work on it, rather than drive it into the ground.

But you haven't finished the story, or told us how far your luck really held.

Are you still living in the dog house, or did your wife in fact forgive you? Did you in fact actually ask permission?

Or even better, does she like the car, & want to share in the fun?

Hasbeen

Posted: 02 Apr 2013 01:01
by FI Spyder
Great story. Great picture.


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Posted: 02 Apr 2013 02:08
by WhiteTR8
LOL!! Well I didn't get a second divorce from this. [:)]

There is more to this story. It just happened that my wife was going away to visit some old friends in southwest Ontario for that particular weekend. With this in mind, I knew that if I told her about the TR8 when I first saw it advertised it on the Tuesday night then I'd be hearing three days of being told why I don't need the car before she left, so I didn't say anything.

Without a classic car in the garage my wife had turned it into a storage area for junk. When she arrived home on the Sunday night I said to her "honey, we've got to have a garage sale right away". She responded "that's a great idea but why right away". To which I responded "well honey, to make room in the garage for our new Triumph TR8 sports car". [:0]

Well she was absolutely furious for about five minutes until I sat her down and told her the full story of my old TR8. She knew about the car from previous old photos, so she mellowed fairly quickly. Once she had her first ride in the TR8 it was the clincher and she started telling all her friends about how cool "our TR8" is. So all is well that ends well. [;)]

Posted: 02 Apr 2013 05:15
by john 215
Hi Greg,

[:D] WELCOME TO THE BEST TR7 / 8 FORUM IN THE WORLD EVER [8D]

Great story thanks for sharing

Cheers John

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Posted: 02 Apr 2013 15:44
by Beans
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by WhiteTR8</i>

.... I've 6 X 13" rims with Sumitomo 205/60 tires which are no longer being produced. It seems that they're aren't a lot of tire options left in that size ... <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Just received a new set of road legal wet weather Yokohama A-021R 185/70x13 tyres for my DHC ...

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Posted: 02 Apr 2013 18:24
by WhiteTR8
Beans, the 185/70's are readily available for 13" rims. I have those mounted on my standard 5.5 X 13 rims, but I'm running 205/60's on my 6 x 13 Shelby rims and they're hard to find. I just located a set of used 15" Panasports this morning so am considering those as replacements.

Posted: 03 Apr 2013 00:23
by Hasbeen
Evidently Kumho are making tyres for 13" wheels, & some knowledgeable drivers have said they were surprisingly good.

Don't know myself, but worth a look.

Hasbeen

Posted: 03 Apr 2013 14:43
by FI Spyder
I use the Kumho's on my stock 13" alloys.

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Posted: 03 Apr 2013 21:04
by Last TR
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Jim,

I assume installation of those flares for the wide rims required trimming the stock sheet metal?

Ken Morton
Anchorage, Alaska
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