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Dashpot Oil

Posted: 03 Jun 2012 15:12
by REPLIC8
How often should you top up the oil in the dashpots? My car has twin strombergs and I seem to have to top them up evrey time I use it. Today I checked them before I left and they were about halfway down the tube, when I got home after a round trip of about 50 miles (and a day sat in a field in the rain [:(]) they were empty. As far as I know the oil should be about half an inch down from the threads? Is this normal oil use or are they leaking oil somewhere? I seem to remember the SU's on my TR7 also used lots of oil.

Andy
1981 UK SPEC TR8
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Posted: 03 Jun 2012 15:36
by saabfast
I find SU's are the same which is one reason I use 20/50 left in the can instead of dashpot oil (plus 20/50 is thicker and theoretically gives a bit more acceleration, not that I have ever noticed it, probably because it does not stay in long enough).

Alan
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Posted: 03 Jun 2012 15:43
by stevie_a
<font color="teal"><b>As a boy (17 /18)

we used to put brake fluid in and was supposed to be better acceleration

don't know if we were just kidding ourselves

has anybody heard of this?</b></font id="teal">

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Posted: 03 Jun 2012 15:51
by saabfast
Interesting opposite! I was always told that a thicker oil made the piston fall slower, keeping the mixture richer. Kids theories I suppose.

Alan
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Posted: 03 Jun 2012 16:21
by stevie_a
<font color="teal"><b>I see your point, it may have been faster throttle response ( cant remember now)

would be interesting to find out

as you say "Kids theories I suppose"</b></font id="teal">

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Posted: 03 Jun 2012 16:56
by Workshop Help
The rubber O-ring on the brass screw has deteriorated allowing the oil to drain into the intake tract. The good news is the O-ring is cheap.

The bad news is replacing the O-ring will necessitate the resetting of the mixtures and a general tuning re-balance of the carburetor set.

Mildred Hargis

Posted: 04 Jun 2012 07:29
by REPLIC8
I'm assuming this is the o ring that comes on the needle adjuster. These were only replaced last year. Maybe I'll try thicker oil (20/50) and carry some in the car so I can top up at shows etc before the trip home. Surely these were originally supposed to stay topped up between services, or was it a regular maintenance chore?

Andy
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Posted: 04 Jun 2012 08:35
by Hasbeen
I top up my SUs oil about once every 6000Km, using 20W50 engine oil, & they are still offering full resistance at that time. You should not have to do it more often.

We used to run a machine oil, about SAE 10 in SUs back in the 60s when I was racing using them. However in those days of copper floats, with an adjustable to act on the needle, we had better control of the float level in our carbs. For normal road work we ran it at 1/8" below the top of the main jet, bringing it up to 1/16" for competition.

This higher level would have made them a bit more responsive than ours today.

Hasbeen

Posted: 04 Jun 2012 08:40
by john 215
Hi Andy,

It is a service item BUT not a weekly one !!

This is the o ring -


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Posted: 04 Jun 2012 18:04
by FI Spyder
O-rings can be made from different materials, some that don't stand up to gas/oil environments. Just because it's in a kit doesn't mean it's the right one. A knowledgeable O ring place should get you the right one. See link below which materials are suitable for what environments.

http://www.marcorubber.com/material_chart.htm



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