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Re: To roll bar or not to roll bar a TR7 Convertible? - that is the question..

Postby FI Spyder » 19 Dec 2016 14:51

All this talk of roll bars always brings to mind of a segment of Trucks (TV show) by Stacey David where he bought an old Bronco to redo on the show. It had a roll bar made out of plastic plumbing pipe which he removed with a sledge hammer. It was pretty funny.

My thoughts on a roll bar in a TR7 is: if God wanted a roll bar in a TR7, he would have made it that way. :D
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Re: To roll bar or not to roll bar a TR7 Convertible? - that is the question..

Postby Hasbeen » 20 Dec 2016 06:29

Agree Spyder, but must add, if god wants me to live, he'll stop me rolling my 7.

If he doesn't, all the roll bars in heaven or on earth are not going to save me.

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Re: To roll bar or not to roll bar a TR7 Convertible? - that is the question..

Postby busheytrader » 20 Dec 2016 09:15

FI Spyder wrote:if God wanted a roll bar in a TR7, he would have made it that way. :D


OMG - so God took the form of British Leyland in the 1970's and 1980's. Whilst waiting for BT to give me a start date for my first job, BL employed me as a driver delivering truck and bus parts. One day an old lady jumped in front of my Leyland Terrier truck and shouted that I was "doing God's work".

I thought she was bonkers but I realise she was right all along..........

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Re: To roll bar or not to roll bar a TR7 Convertible? - that is the question..

Postby dursleyman » 20 Dec 2016 12:14

Henry wrote:I plan to also make a wind deflector that slots in under and between the two tubes to stop the draft at the back of our heads.
Good luck!


I have one of these and it works amazingly well, much better that the perpex one I had before.

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Re: To roll bar or not to roll bar a TR7 Convertible? - that is the question..

Postby Henry » 20 Dec 2016 12:34

FI Spyder wrote: My thoughts on a roll bar in a TR7 is: if God wanted a roll bar in a TR7, he would have made it that way. :D

God was overruled by the Accountants at BL but I get where you're coming from :lol:
It's a bit like rear spoilers, chalk and cheese I guess, suits some not others. I have no delusions that it will be much good if I roll, I just like them and feel it somehow balances the car from a front three-quarters view...
Russ is spot on, as usual, I don't mind the breeze around the back of my head but the enemy (Mrs Henry) isn't keen...
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Re: To roll bar or not to roll bar a TR7 Convertible? - that is the question..

Postby gaz » 30 Dec 2016 09:41

I actually quite like the look of the aley bar:

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Re: To roll bar or not to roll bar a TR7 Convertible? - that is the question..

Postby Hasbeen » 31 Dec 2016 01:47

In 1965/6 I was racing a Lotus 20, Formula Junior, as was a good mate of mine. He had a very low speed accident, [under 40 MPH] when another car spun infront of him, hit the safety fence, & bounced back onto the track in a somewhat modified condition.

My mate ran over the mess, & was inverted & reversed in doing so. Colin Chapman's idea of a roll bar bent forward, over his head, holding him up so his head could not move. As his head was the lowest point the result was as you would expect.

A couple of years later another mate inverted a Lotus 19B down Conrod straight Bathurst, at pretty high speed. I doubt even a tin top with full roll cage could have saved him, the roll bar certainly didn't.

I have another couple of mates, who came out of their cars, [as did Stirling Moss], in quite high speed accidents, & were still around to tell the tale for some decades.

None of this proves anything. What will kill you in one accident will save you in a slightly different accident. However, badly built, inadequate roll bars are more likely to kill than save. The same goes for seat belts, again depending on circumstances.

I refused to drive a space frame F1 when compulsory seat belt rules started to be enforced. The decision should have been mine, not some faceless officials. I had another mate killed when his TR4, at very low speed, tripped, chucked him half out, then fell on top of him, all at about 10 MPH. That a seat belt would probably have saved him, did not mean one was suitable equipment in a light space frame car of my era.

I am not trying to change any one's opinion on safety, but please, if you fit a rollover bar, make it about twice as strong as you think is strong enough. Unless immensely strong, they are worse than useless.

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Re: To roll bar or not to roll bar a TR7 Convertible? - that is the question..

Postby Cobber » 31 Dec 2016 02:07

When I look at some of these "rollbars" being sold these days, I'm horrified by their flimsy design, inappropriate materials, poor diagonal bracing (if any) and appallingly weak mountings.

Unless they are properly engineered, they are a W.O.F.T.A.M (Waste of fecking time and money)
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