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Fitting an immobilizer.

Postby supercass » 25 Jun 2020 09:36

On the five speed gearbox wiring loom there is a white wire with a red tracer which exits the socket via one terminal and is immediately doubled back via another terminal. I understand this is because it is the wiring to prevent an automatic car being started in gear and as it is not needed in a manual box it doubles back effectively completing the circuit. Therefore am I right in thinking:

If this wire were cut the car would not start.
This circuit could therefore be rewired and used as one point on a two (or three) point immobilizer. (I have a tool to remove the existing pins and a number of Lucas Rist pins for rewiring as necessary)

I just wanted to check this out before I crawl on my back under the car.
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Re: Fitting an immobilizer.

Postby Beans » 25 Jun 2020 12:08

I have been led to believe it is the wiring for the selector gate light. But not sure!
Easy way to find out: disconnect the gear box loom and see what happens :wink:
It is fairly easy to access under the bonnet at the back of the engine (near the distributor).
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Re: Fitting an immobilizer.

Postby supercass » 25 Jun 2020 12:39

Thanks for you reply. Never thought of that. I seem to recall the wiring for the gearbox light finishing under the console but think I repurposed it. The part of the loom I have in mind is right under the car adjacent to the gearbox. Why would the cable double back though, that is what made me think it was for a neutral safety switch for an auto box. There are several wires on this loom so I'd still have to clamber under the car to test. supercass

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Re: Fitting an immobilizer.

Postby supercass » 25 Jun 2020 12:48

neutral safety switch would do but inhibitor was the word I was trying to think of!!
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Re: Fitting an immobilizer.

Postby Beans » 25 Jun 2020 15:31

I know which loom you are referring to, as I just renovated one :wink:
And of course the wiring diagram could shed some light here!

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This loom is a pretty simple and straightforward affair

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1976 TR7 FHC (currently being restored ...)
1980 TR7 DHC (my first car, a.k.a. Kermette)
1981 TR7 FHC (Sprint engined a.k.a. 't Kreng)

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Re: Fitting an immobilizer.

Postby sonscar » 25 Jun 2020 17:41

With a clockwork engine with coil battery distributer and starter next to each other starting should not be a problem to old school thieves.Steve..

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Re: Fitting an immobilizer.

Postby Howard_B » 25 Jun 2020 18:41

The link you are looking at (white/red wire) only inhibits the starter motor. The car can be bump started even if this link is broken, so not a very good security device.

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Re: Fitting an immobilizer.

Postby supercass » 25 Jun 2020 23:03

Thanks for replies. It is only to be one point on a two or three point system, since I still have a manual fuel pump I have an electric valve which will be located in the fuel line as the second point. I'm aware that as modern cars get more difficult to steal thieves are turning to older cars. supercass

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Re: Fitting an immobilizer.

Postby Axis of evil » 28 Jun 2020 07:21

An immobilizer on a TR7?
Do you really think there are people out there that would want to steal one? :shock:
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Re: Fitting an immobilizer.

Postby Cobber » 28 Jun 2020 10:22

Unkind folk might say our cars already have an effective immobiliser in the form of Lucas electrics! :lol:
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Re: Fitting an immobilizer.

Postby manny » 29 Jun 2020 06:40

Axis of evil wrote:An immobilizer on a TR7?
Do you really think there are people out there that would want to steal one? :shock:
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yep -mine was a few years ago!. despite the insurance chap stating it was 'not that desirable' when i commented on the low insurance!
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Re: Fitting an immobilizer.

Postby busheytrader » 29 Jun 2020 18:02

When 2.0L wedges were current they were insurance group 7. Exotic stuff like Ferraris and Porsches were only group 8 or 9!

I still have a complete set of TR8 badges for my 7V8. I never got round to fitting them as I thought the 3.5 litre badges in 1990 would draw the wrong kind of attention. Likewise when I colour changed the car earlier, it was changed to another blue instead of the red I really wanted as it was parked on the street.

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